From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: [Emacs-diffs] feature/integrated-elpa 4f6df43 15/23: README added Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 21:35:59 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <30e1b79f-924d-4f20-bb9a-404a7999ee33@default> References: <20160916203414.25203.87032@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <871t0apsxm.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87shsm7hi6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8eucwi2.fsf@gnu.org> <878tudgwlq.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360pgoyo4.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1jn3ws9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8eqoi08.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1jlacsh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <867f9t4n4t.fsf@realize.ch> <874m4x8sq5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8637kh4j1u.fsf@realize.ch> <87wpht4b1i.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86y4292m2u.fsf@realize.ch> <8737kd8vfh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86bmyz2tt1.fsf@realize.ch> <87int4w341.fsf@russet.org.uk> <3b749272-eced-450b-a476-ca183049712d@default> <87twcl2s31.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476049008 14397 195.159.176.226 (9 Oct 2016 21:36:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 21:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Alain Schneble , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 09 23:36:44 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1btLlk-0001D6-RQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2016 23:36:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45651 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1btLlj-0001W9-8k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2016 17:36:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54221) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1btLlZ-0001UF-W4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2016 17:36:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1btLlX-0000hW-2k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2016 17:36:15 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:47801) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1btLlO-0000fN-Ma; Sun, 09 Oct 2016 17:36:06 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u99La22P004624 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 9 Oct 2016 21:36:03 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u99La2pQ028689 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 9 Oct 2016 21:36:02 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u99LZxgL024217; Sun, 9 Oct 2016 21:36:00 GMT In-Reply-To: <87twcl2s31.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208129 Archived-At: > > Sometimes change[s] that I am not in favor of need to be made, or > > at least some think that they need to be made. So far, I don't see > > why a change in where Emacs Lisp files are stored (distributed) is > > needed. >=20 > I think I have explained my reasoning here. I must have missed it. What is the reason? Why is this needed? If a proposed automatic use of package.el is _transparent_ to users then that should include meaning that the Lisp libraries it puts in place are put in place under .../lisp/, just as now. It could be OK to add another subdir of .../lisp/ for some new stuff that we really do not think logically belongs either directly in .../lisp/ itself or under any of its existing subdirs. But such a case would likely be (and should be) exceptional. Usually, when a new library is added, it fits in one of the existing subdirs well enough.