From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64272: 28.1; lisp_file_lexically_bound_p behavior mismatches file local variables Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:18:34 +0000 Message-ID: <30832e8647ddb7b160e5@heytings.org> References: <83zg4oy9ow.fsf@gnu.org> <83wmzsxedw.fsf@gnu.org> <83mt0ny47z.fsf@gnu.org> <83h6qvxv8q.fsf@gnu.org> <83a5wmxyqn.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2505"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 64272@debbugs.gnu.org, LdBeth , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 26 17:19:15 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qDnzn-0000QW-3X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 17:19:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qDnzc-0007BE-A3; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:19:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qDnzb-0007AB-IO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:19:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qDnzb-00074u-2C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:19:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qDnza-00038E-U2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:19:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gregory Heytings Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64272 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64272-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64272.168779271711982 (code B ref 64272); Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:19:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64272) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jun 2023 15:18:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46858 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qDnzB-00037B-Ix for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:18:37 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:59128) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qDnz9-000373-KH for 64272@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:18:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1687792715; bh=5LZdPt5dbvICUvCI1eD8hCxjIkuxu4G0KUSsUHUVxEc=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=gAoeCsgL08BSEsNaE6YltAEY1l/kY36di4nUkit4ic0pegM1Fz22aoASrTPfe4KIi URHwhVITL5icHsOjG/pD3d/4FD3jQiHvuioRLyNC6vBeIhpqbRYI9mPKxF3Ayinyh9 T5QCG6JK5kRWAOHH7nmBnsyQEC2EH6qdn45r6fJuIAAOPiaOlw1KD9KKNsuubp1oxo p2RR/4DpycrjzdAZnuOD0FmcPcO8nbHmARfcBgvCXDuVi5Qg6m8D+N3hu3J49IrsNr CQj+E8HuUIS7rF51/Uo+bnU2i43rHRlO/+Edf/R3BYfwTEGHxuI7G46Tq5Cq6RK1T+ QWJaVwHWU5sOQ== In-Reply-To: <83a5wmxyqn.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:264105 Archived-At: > > I'm sorry to bust this particular wedding, but here we see once again > what became a frequent pattern in Emacs: a tiny problem, perhaps > affecting one or a few users who happen to bump into it the first time > they try something, which then causes quite serious changes to low-level > infrastructure in Emacs that has been working flawlessly for years, and > by doing that destabilize Emacs for no good reason. IOW, a tail that > wags the dog. > > Happens time and again in Emacs, and we all fail to pay attention. > > [...] > > That said, I know I will be downvoted, and so will not object any > changes in this wrong direction. Let the resultant breakage speak for > itself. > Not that my opinion counts, but FWIW, I agree with the above, and I upvote this.