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From: "Clément Pit--Claudel" <clement.pit@gmail.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>,
	Arthur Miller <arthur.miller.no1@gmail.com>
Cc: 25408@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#25408: Remove Decorations Around Emacs Frame (Windows OS)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 16:02:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <301ed349-64c7-12c6-d843-e73eb1e20e83@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <589F1F58.1050807@gmx.at>


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On 2017-02-11 09:27, martin rudalics wrote:
> If you are on GNU/Linux or Windows then please apply the attached patch
> synch-frames.diff to your current version of master and rebuild.  If you
> succeeded doing that, start emacs -Q and continue reading.

Thanks! The patch applied cleanly and everything compiled fine.

> To remove a frame's decorations, use the frame parameter `undecorated'

This works great.

> To make a new frame undecorated use
> (make-frame '((undecorated . t)))

This works great too.

> If everything works as intended and your only interest
> was to make frames without decorations, you can finish reading here.

Everything up to that point worked great :)

> Usually, the position of a frame's native rectangle doesn't change when
> adding/removing decorations.  If you want to change it, use the `left'
> and `top' frame parameters.

That works fine.

> If you think you need to remove/add individual parts of the decorations
> (titlebar, buttons, external borders) post your wishes here.  Some
> window managers might be able to do that.

I haven't needed this yet :)

> The rest of this text is concerned with describing additional features.
> If some of them don't work on your system, please tell me, usually they
> need a compliant window manager as well.

Thanks.  Maybe this is a good time to introduce my use case: I'd like to replace company-mode's overlay-based "tooltips" with proper tooltip-like frames.  show-x-tooltip almost works for that purpose, but not quite: most importantly, there can at any time only be at most one pop-up.

> To make a frame not show up on the taskbar use the
> frame parameter `skip-taskbar'
> To make a new frame not receive focus initially or when deiconified, use
> the frame parameter `no-focus-on-map'

✓, although if I create a frame with no-focus-on-map I then need a call to raise-frame to raise it — even if its z-group is 'above.  Maybe when z-group is "above" the frame should be automatically raised?

> Usually this works but if you are using a focus follows mouse policy you
> might have to specify the `no-accept-focus' parameter as well as in
> 
> (make-frame '((no-focus-on-map . t) (no-accept-focus . t)))
> If you want to avoid that C-x 5 o switches to a specific frame, set
> that frame's `no-other-frame' parameter as in
> A second group of parameters/functions is concerned with maintaining and
> investigating the stacking order of frames.  The `z-group' parameter
> allows to put a frame in a separate group above or (not on Windows)
> below all other frames that are not in the same group.  For example
> 
> (set-frame-parameter nil 'z-group 'above)

✓, although it would be nice to automatically raise the frame when x-group is above.  I can call raise-frame, but it doesn't work correctly when the frame is invisible (and setting the visibility to t before raising the frame doesn't work either).

> For normal (non-child) frames there's a new hook `move-frame-functions'
> called after a frame was moved so you can also synchronize the movements
> of two top-level frames.

Cool.  I should use this to make sure the popup stays around.

> If the functions/parameters described here work sufficiently well, I'll
> post a number of toy algorithms that show how to synchronize two frames
> in a way that always shows one frame at a specified position on top of
> the other.

I think this is wonderful work; thanks so much for doing all this.

I've posted the code I used to test this with company.  f you eval this and run M-x company-tooltip--add-advice, completion should use an x frame in addition to its regular overlay-based tooltips.  This works very nicely, except for a few problems listed below:

* Creating a frame is rather slow; the following is an excerpt of a profile:

               - make-frame                                       442  29%
                - frame-creation-function                         440  29%
                 - apply                                          440  29%
                  - #<compiled 0x4862dd>                          440  29%
                   - x-create-frame-with-faces                    440  29%
                    - face-set-after-frame-default                307  20%
                     - face-spec-recalc                           276  18%
                      - make-face-x-resource-internal             217  14%
                       - set-face-attributes-from-resources       213  14%
                        - set-face-attribute-from-resource        190  12%
                         - face-name                              126   8%
                          + check-face                            118   7%
                      + face-spec-reset-face                       44   2%
                      + face-spec-set-2                             7   0%
                       set-face-attribute                           8   0%
                  normal-erase-is-backspace-setup-frame                  2   0%

* Frames with z-group set to 'above are not automatically raised when no-focus-on-map is set, so I need to call x-raise-frame on them; this doesn't work when they are invisible (instead it makes them visible without raising them, it seems).

* Creating a frame / making it visible uses my WM's frame creating animation — is there a way to disable this (x-show-tip doesn't have it)?

Thanks again for all this cool stuff! It would be great to use proper frames for company's completion popups.


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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-11 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-09 22:20 bug#25408: Remove Decorations Around Emacs Frame (Windows OS) Arthur Miller
2017-01-10  8:23 ` martin rudalics
2017-01-10 17:07   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-10 18:07     ` martin rudalics
2017-01-10 18:27       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-10 20:39         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-01-11  7:08           ` Arthur Miller
2017-01-11  7:24             ` Arthur Miller
2017-01-11  7:48               ` Arthur Miller
2017-01-11  7:50                 ` Arthur Miller
2017-01-11  8:15                   ` Arthur Miller
2017-01-11  8:39                 ` martin rudalics
2017-01-11  9:17                   ` Arthur Miller
2017-01-11 10:20                     ` Arthur Miller
2017-01-11 13:55                       ` martin rudalics
2017-02-07  5:28                   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-02-07  6:53                     ` martin rudalics
2017-02-07 13:05                       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-02-11 14:27                         ` martin rudalics
2017-02-11 21:02                           ` Clément Pit--Claudel [this message]
2017-02-11 21:10                             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-02-12 11:13                             ` martin rudalics
2017-02-15 19:49                               ` Arthur Miller
2017-02-16  8:04                                 ` martin rudalics
2017-02-16 13:22                                   ` Arthur Miller
2017-02-16 14:06                                     ` Arthur Miller
2017-02-17  7:03                                       ` martin rudalics
2017-02-17  7:03                                     ` martin rudalics
2017-04-12  9:27                               ` martin rudalics
2017-05-06  0:06                                 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-05-06  7:13                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-06 13:26                                     ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-05-06  7:40                                   ` martin rudalics
2017-05-06  9:41                                     ` martin rudalics
2017-05-06 13:28                                       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-05-06 14:20                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-06 21:01                                           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-05-07  2:30                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-07  8:41                                           ` martin rudalics
2017-05-07  8:40                                         ` martin rudalics
2017-05-07 17:19                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-07 18:07                                             ` martin rudalics
2017-05-07 18:33                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-08  6:48                                                 ` martin rudalics
2017-05-08 14:41                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-25 11:02                                   ` martin rudalics
2017-06-25 16:23                                     ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-04-12 17:38                           ` Alan Third
2017-04-12 19:13                             ` martin rudalics
2017-04-12 19:51                               ` Alan Third
2017-04-13  7:10                                 ` martin rudalics
2017-04-13 10:30                                   ` Alan Third
2017-04-13 11:56                                     ` martin rudalics
2017-04-15 16:29                                   ` Alan Third
2017-04-15 19:39                                     ` martin rudalics
2017-04-17 14:56                                       ` bug#25408: Remove Decorations Around Emacs Frame (NS port) Alan Third
2017-04-17 15:43                                         ` martin rudalics
2017-04-17 16:21                                           ` Alan Third
2017-04-17 17:20                                             ` martin rudalics
2017-04-17 18:55                                               ` Alan Third
2017-04-19  7:26                                                 ` martin rudalics
2017-04-19 14:33                                                   ` Alan Third
2017-04-19 16:01                                                     ` martin rudalics
2017-04-19 17:04                                                       ` Alan Third
2017-04-19 18:07                                                         ` martin rudalics
2017-06-10 15:38                                                           ` Alan Third
2017-06-11  8:10                                                             ` martin rudalics
2017-06-11 16:35                                                               ` Alan Third
2017-06-12  6:09                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2017-06-12 17:59                                                                   ` Alan Third
2017-06-13  7:24                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2017-06-22  9:10                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2017-06-25 14:22                                                                       ` Alan Third
2017-06-25 15:58                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2017-07-15 21:27                                                                           ` Alan Third
2017-07-16  8:28                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2017-04-19 11:24                                         ` Anders Lindgren
2017-04-19 12:50                                           ` martin rudalics
2017-04-19 13:51                                           ` Alan Third
2017-01-11  8:38             ` bug#25408: Remove Decorations Around Emacs Frame (Windows OS) martin rudalics
2017-01-11 16:39             ` Richard Stallman
2017-01-10 19:36 ` Richard Stallman
2017-01-11 13:50 ` bug#25408: SV: " arthur.miller.no1
2017-01-11 13:57   ` martin rudalics
2017-01-11 14:59 ` arthur.miller.no1

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