From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: php-mode Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 09:17:21 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: <2ofwldk7we.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> References: <1312000189.8462.4.camel@eric-sprocket> <1312342534.2474.1.camel@eric-sprocket> <87ei0zn3we.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pqkjkyrs.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1312701441 17027 80.91.229.12 (7 Aug 2011 07:17:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 07:17:21 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 07 09:17:17 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qpxbp-0005rL-3H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2011 09:17:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43194 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qpxbo-0007uP-Bc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2011 03:17:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54796) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qpxbl-0007uE-GZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2011 03:17:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qpxbj-0001pg-Uy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2011 03:17:13 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:32827) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qpxbj-0001pc-Nw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2011 03:17:11 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qpxbi-0005qi-Cp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2011 09:17:10 +0200 Original-Received: from 85.183.18.158 ([85.183.18.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Aug 2011 09:17:10 +0200 Original-Received: from rileyrg by 85.183.18.158 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Aug 2011 09:17:10 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.183.18.158 Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:HdWFu0bvya/uUUqTLdwoMj0SrOU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142955 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> If possible, I'd rather integrate the existing code, to avoid the mess >>> of having umpteen alternatives. >> If there is a PHP mode included in Emacs, that will be the one PHP mode >> that people use. > > History seems to indicate that it's not necessarily the case. > > Stefan > It is most definitely not the case. php mode, like javascript mode, is a mass of confusion and conflicting/competing modes out there all branched and at various levels and maintained by numerous authors. One glance at the wiki pages tells you all you need to know about the state of multi-mode/"web tech" mode programming in emacs : its far from straightforward and the "shipped" modes seem to generally be shunned as opposed to adopted.