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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 15117@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: bug#15117: 24.3.50; doc of `(forward|backward)-*': state return value
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:16:27 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2fefcbaf-9417-4f57-93af-490ea73aea98@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvr47b3pcw.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>

> > These are NOT side-effect functions.  They modify nothing except
> > the cursor position.
> 
> How is that not a side-effect?

You are clearly arguing for the sake of arguing, now.

Everything in the universe has side effects.  Ohhmmmm.  It's true.

Motion functions are not what is typically meant by a side-effect
function.  They do not change the contents of the buffer, for
example, in the sense of `buffer-modified-p'.

These functions are like `goto-char' and `skip-chars-forward', as
mentioned in the bug report.  They are also like `forward-line',
another motion function whose return value we document.  And
`beginning-of-defun' - another.

By your (newfound) logic, you will presumably remove mention of
the return value from the doc for those functions.  The same
logic behind documenting their return value applies to these
other motion functions.





  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-10 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-17 15:59 bug#15117: 24.3.50; doc of `(forward|backward)-*': state return value Drew Adams
2014-02-08  5:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-10  0:12   ` Drew Adams
2014-02-10  2:39     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-10  2:45       ` Drew Adams
2014-02-10 16:27     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-10 21:16       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-02-11  1:07         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-02-11  6:40           ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11  1:28         ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-02-11  6:43           ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11 16:31             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-02-11 17:29               ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11 18:05                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-02-11 18:42                 ` Andreas Röhler
2014-02-11 18:58                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-02-11 19:13                     ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11 19:26                     ` Andreas Röhler
2014-02-11 17:36             ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-02-11  2:52         ` Glenn Morris
2014-02-11  4:01         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-11 10:52           ` Andreas Röhler
2014-02-11 11:16             ` Nicolas Richard
2014-02-11 12:10               ` Andreas Röhler
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     [not found]                 ` <<8338jpttic.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-02-11 18:14                   ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11 18:17                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                   ` <<5889df4e-4343-4136-ae49-4062659da625@default>
     [not found]                     ` <<831tz9tsy2.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-02-11 18:26                       ` Drew Adams

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