From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 08:44:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2e3dd70f-e3b7-4fb7-81c2-72331b5bc520@default> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87mw72lyzs.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20141205190925.GA5067@thyrsus.com> <20141206061019.GC14890@thyrsus.com> <87r3wdp0r5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417884307 24744 80.91.229.3 (6 Dec 2014 16:45:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 16:45:07 +0000 (UTC) To: David Kastrup , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 06 17:45:00 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XxITb-0007ye-Ne for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 17:44:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54883 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxITb-0007tU-Bb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 11:44:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43555) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxIT9-0007fa-HJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 11:44:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxIT0-0004jn-R8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 11:44:31 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:23182) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxIT0-0004j3-K5; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 11:44:22 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id sB6GiL0l011208 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 6 Dec 2014 16:44:22 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sB6GiKTD023832 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 6 Dec 2014 16:44:20 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sB6GiKkh014051; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 16:44:20 GMT In-Reply-To: <87r3wdp0r5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179189 Archived-At: > I frequently point people to particular nodes of our online HTML > manuals that could answer their question. The way I do that is > to find the information in Info, then copy&paste some recognizably > unique text phrase into a web search engine, check that the > reference this turns up is the corresponding online version of > the Info manual and then post the HTML link. Same here. Except I don't bother to search the web. I just go to the GNU Emacs or Elisp manual on the web (separate HTML page per node version), search the TOC (first page) for the node name, and copy the URL of the link to that node. I do this often. Instead of just answering questions, it is most helpful to *point users to the doc*, so they get additional info and they get the benefit of well thought out presentation. It is even more helpful to also to tell them how _they_ can find such doc, by *asking Emacs* directly. Probably what I should do is write an Emacs command that does all of that from an Info node: grab the URL to that same manual node on the web. But it's so quick to get it manually that I haven't bothered, so far.