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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309740 Archived-At: On 01/09/2023 10:59, Hugo Thunnissen wrote: > Dmitry Gutov writes: >> There is a sweet spot somewhere, but I don't have any scientific argument for >> its position. Though if I try to imagine myself 10-15 years younger (rather >> difficult), the grading would most likely be Github > Gitlab >> Bugzilla > mumi >>>> Debbugs. Add a pound of salt, of course. >> There should also be SourceHut on this scale, but I don't know where to put it. > From the perspective of a zoomer (born 1997), I'll fill that in for you: > Github > Gitlab > Sourcehut > Bugzilla > mumi. Not that this reflects my > personal preference, but looking at my peers it is clear that they > overwhelmingly prefer the "pull-request GUI" workflow. Looking at > bugzilla I don't see what it does differently from sourcehut's ticket > tracker, but sourcehut is more than just a ticket tracker so I rank it > higher. Thank you. > PS: I'm a little surprised that sourcehut is not receiving more love > here. Looking at sourcehut it seems to be the only forge where email > based developmen is a first-class citizen. It's also the only forge that > is licensed under the GPL and whose developers politically align with > the FSF. It seems to me that a better fit for the emacs project doesn't > exist. They do have an email-drived workflow, but a somewhat different one ;-D. And they're moderately rigid about it. So that turned out to be a hard sell too, at least the last time it was discussed and considered.