From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christophe Poncy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Apologia for CUA mode Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 23:09:16 +0100 Message-ID: <2dbf3293066b62a96782a31a5ad98451@genium.fr> References: <20140103152117.GA16679@c3po> <20140104082857.GA22010@thyrsus.com> <87vbxzy3m4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388873368 13741 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2014 22:09:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 22:09:28 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 04 23:09:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzZPS-0000Mp-Mb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 23:09:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55881 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzZPR-0005TA-Oj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 17:09:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44734) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzZPJ-0005T4-SM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 17:09:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzZPD-0000lp-4E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 17:09:25 -0500 Original-Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:c:538::195]:39660) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzZPC-0000le-UE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 17:09:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mfilter2-d.gandi.net (mfilter2-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.140]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D4EA8088 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 23:09:18 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter2-d.gandi.net Original-Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]) by mfilter2-d.gandi.net (mfilter2-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1MsPwHx+zLmS for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 23:09:16 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 10.58.1.143 Original-Received: from webmail.gandi.net (unknown [10.58.1.143]) (Authenticated sender: cp@genium.fr) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D971EA8075 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 23:09:16 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: X-Sender: cp@genium.fr User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.9.5 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4b98:c:538::195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167335 Archived-At: On 2014-01-04 20:38, Lennart Borgman wrote: > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:00 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Tom writes: >> >> > Kill/yank comes to mind as obvious example. The copy/cut/paste >> > terminology is pretty much standard, so the various kill/yank >> > operations (kill-region, copy-region-as-kill, etc.) should >> > be mapped to these terms. >> >> The problem I see with that is that the terms are mnemonics for the >> keybindings: the kill bindings contain "k", the yank bindings "y". >> >> And (as you probably remember) the problem with that as I see it is >> the > key bindings. Users expect CUA. ;-) Not all. My mother who never touched a PC in its entire life likes emacs as it is :) -- Support free software! Join FSF: https://my.fsf.org/associate/support_freedom?referrer=4574