From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#737: vc-dir reports unregistered-then-deleted file is "up-to-date" Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:30:37 -0500 Message-ID: <2d7i57hryi.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <18600.37952.844941.609726@rgrjr.rgrjr.dyndns.org> <200810040538.m945cRWl025789@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200810050104.m9514rDt028153@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200810050224.m952OBGw028267@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200810060033.m960X1L9001223@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <5vprmemb3k.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <200810060753.m967rsdr002713@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <18665.54888.18653.725178@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200810090452.m994qaCG015034@mothra.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 737@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231355176 9256 80.91.229.12 (7 Jan 2009 19:06:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:06:16 +0000 (UTC) To: 737@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 07 20:07:26 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LKdkE-0000Bp-OK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:07:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34995 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LKdiz-0008BV-35 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:05:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LKdgh-0007Fs-Jc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:03:31 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LKdge-0007E5-Jj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:03:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57514 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LKdge-0007Do-74 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:03:28 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:60428) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LKdgd-0002Bq-2p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:03:27 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n07J3ODY016820; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:03:24 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n07J03xY015775; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:00:03 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: Glenn Morris Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 737 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 737-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B737.123135424014352 (code B ref 737); Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:00:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 737) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 7 Jan 2009 18:50:40 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:03:29 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:23888 Archived-At: > The reason a single person asked about this is to be able to use CVS > offline. But vc-dir is useless with CVS offline, it will just tell you Actually, the stay-local feature in CVS is (for me) not so much to work offline (since CVS is not really usable in that circumstance), but so that M-x vc-dir RET doesn't take ages to give me a buffer. I very often want to have a *vc-dir* buffer to see which files I've modified, then either open them, or get a diff of the changes I made, ... all those operations can be made in much less time than it takes for "cvs update -n" (or "cvs status") to finish. Supposedly, those operations can even all be performed offline in Svn, so stay-local might be even more useful there. > What Stefan wanted was predicated by the existence of a vc-pull function > to balance for not being able to see the status of the remote > files. Actually, vc-pull is not just needed to make up for "stay-local". It's just needed for all the more modern backends. So it's a high priority. > Such a function does not exist, and it probably won't during the > feature freeze. Yes, it's too bad that vc-dir is still lacking such features at this point. Not enough contributors, it seems. Stefan