From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "ken manheimer" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1442: 23.0.60; C-h in allout mode Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:21:00 -0500 Message-ID: <2cd46e7f0811301021o58243225k877c768018840a3f@mail.gmail.com> References: <87myfhrxnt.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Reply-To: ken manheimer , 1442@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1228069838 14680 80.91.229.12 (30 Nov 2008 18:30:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1442@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Leo To: "Chong Yidong" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 30 19:31:40 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L6r50-0000gX-Kx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:21:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87myfhrxnt.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:30:19 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:22795 Archived-At: i've considered it more than once, particularly since i personally find the C-h "show all bindings" binding so useful. my reluctance has been because "h" is such a nice mnemonic for "hide". ultimately, i think it should be done, but need to feel more comfortable with the provisions for users to adjust the key bindings to their liking, along with changing it. so, what i'd like to see is: - default assignment of "C-c" (for "collapse") in the allout map to allout-hide-current-subtree - default assignment of "C-h" so it shows the key translations (i suppose leaving it unbound accomplishes that?) - customization provisions for the individual allout map key assignments (in addition to the already-present customization provision for the key prefix) i will probably do that sometime in the next few weeks, if nobody else takes it on. (revisiting considerations of online guidance for allout, i would also like to see a new "allout-help" function bound to "?" in the allout map which provides a help-buffer-ish menu of the other help resources, like the allout-mode help, the C-h key translations, the help for allout-toggle-current-subtree-encryption, etc.. i'm going to put that in my list of pending things for eventual satisfaction, and again would not mind having someone else beat me to it...:-) -- ken http://myriadicity.net On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Chong Yidong wrote: > > Hi Ken, > > What do you think about this suggestion? > > > The following element should be removed from allout-keybindings-list: > > > > ("\C-h" allout-hide-current-subtree) > > > > because it prevents "C-c SPC C-h" to list all key bindings starting with > > "C-c SPC", unlike other modes.