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From: "ken manheimer" <ken.manheimer@gmail.com>
To: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: "scroll-fringe"
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:34:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2cd46e7f0806301434o14060b2cof4875470ab68a9f0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvy74occek.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:

>> i've been thinking for a while about the usefulness of the scrollbar
>> versus its space consumption and visual incongruity, and recently
>> turned the scrollbar off.  the only thing i miss is the opportunity to
>> see at a glance the proportion of the buffer that the window covers,
>
> Indeed, that was also my conclusion when I tried it: for actual
> movement, scroll-wheels, key-shortcuts, as well as things like
> mouse-drag-throw work just as well.
>
>> and it seems like that would not at all be a hard thing to implement
>> in the fringes, given the right knowledge.
>
> I'm not completely convinced it's that easy to do right now.  But yes,
> it could be done with some work at the C level.  But it would only be
> meaningful if it works together with the usual fringe use.  If not, then
> you may as well turn off the fringe and turn on the scrollbar.

yeah - i would really be looking for a minimal indicator, like a
region colored differently than the other fringe indicators so the
other indicators could coexist with the new indicator bar.

> As for me, I still have a scroll-bar, but I made it very thin (changing
> the scroll-bar-width frame parameter).

it's handy to hear about both mouse-drag-throw and the
scroll-bar-width parameter!  i would be more comfortable with a
thinner scrollbar if i could get the colors more consistent with my
setup - customizing the scroll bar face doesn't seem to have any
effect at all.  am i trying to set the wrong thing?

anyway, thanks for the leads, and for considering the fringe
window/buffer indicator idea.  sounds like it could be viable, given
interest from someone w/the c-level chops.

>        Stefan

-- 
ken
http://myriadicity.net




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-30 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2008-06-29 17:36 ` "scroll-fringe" ken manheimer
2008-06-29 18:52   ` "scroll-fringe" Stefan Monnier
2008-06-30  6:27     ` "scroll-fringe" Frank Schmitt
2008-06-30 21:34     ` ken manheimer [this message]
2008-07-03 22:13       ` "scroll-fringe" Stefan Monnier

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