From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ken Manheimer" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: python.el fixes for Emacs 22 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:57:37 -0500 Message-ID: <2cd46e7f0802150957t4b01f5fuff106d193c495873@mail.gmail.com> References: <87ve4sqsqe.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <18356.54892.186541.669277@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203098285 14308 80.91.229.12 (15 Feb 2008 17:58:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Leo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 15 18:58:27 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JQ4pE-0000v9-Qz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:58:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JQ4ok-0001qM-SM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:57:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JQ4of-0001o8-JY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:57:41 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JQ4oe-0001lD-2h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:57:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JQ4od-0001kt-K3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:57:39 -0500 Original-Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.176]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JQ4od-0004Du-9C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:57:39 -0500 Original-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so1331131wah.10 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:57:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WEaOTNMpQI+QqJXzGisacibUR6wv3RY7VuXXn97WOqg=; b=kOYis+9eNj+wnYRHN2kr7y9FbUHfgGrbH71UvCyC8eZmdj330nidTNpKfggcM73GgBe4brDQ9LSqjTGVmaQvOn5rsQ0g+WYr9oEsVBRUSW1ti4ZwO6/Ot3fO5L2wn+5Y/IL785SyAzZVVNm7N6vflCLVLPAxR6Pd90aCTN6WVyE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=U78+uH892vRHmfpBt5G3wLz8F2Qq3RYBO+nExt0UqbJHaa+LJjERdL9WsjR1chjccgJBmByyEfhv00Qsq8X57CrTmp+AAKBLmKFjia6xk/IaU3CRAhHNHyMLSlxBVkz7sEKiSYMYVk+DPgErswIrPqKpd88jkcZYkhcxaQ/Lo5I= Original-Received: by 10.114.37.1 with SMTP id k1mr3276358wak.6.1203098257994; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:57:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.114.160.13 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:57:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89171 Archived-At: On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Leo wrote: > On 2008-02-15 00:01 +0000, Nick Roberts wrote: > > > > Maybe most users are using the python-mode.el that is not included in > > > > Emacs. It seems to have more features than the default python.el. > > > > This appears to be just speculation. > > That's why I started the sentence with 'maybe'. the speculation is accurate in my case, and i know several other python coders who retain copies of python-mode.el, if only for pdb tracking. unfortunately, besides this particular feature, i can't tell you what else i'm missing and getting from python-mode.el versus python.el. > [...] > > > > If not, let's look at it now (not for 22.2). > > > > Apart from Ken Manheimer, I have the impression that the developers of > > python-mode.el have a preference towards XEmacs and aren't interested in > > assigning copyright to FSF. > > This is true. It is probably not worth the trouble, particularly there > are tons of python editors that are far superior than Emacs. To name > one, SciTE. aargh! why would you say that? being someone who likes using emacs and python coding, i'm hoping that attitude doesn't mean we settle for less than we ought for coding python with emacs! -- ken http://myriadicity.net