From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ken Manheimer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: new version of allout.el - patch and ChangeLog Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:23:36 -0400 Message-ID: <2cd46e7f0510020723of29c909qfc91971c7f96f324@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cd46e7f0509301024r71462d81v81ebd8e858f06305@mail.gmail.com> <20050930210649.GA22126@kenny.sha-bang.local> <2cd46e7f0509301452l72c262d6l89efd6fb772f61b2@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0510010928v8244052k2a98375e38fdd2ed@mail.gmail.com> <20051002104823.GA31722@kenny.sha-bang.local> Reply-To: Ken Manheimer NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1128263820 10343 80.91.229.2 (2 Oct 2005 14:37:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 14:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 02 16:36:51 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EM4wf-0002tI-UD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 16:36:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EM4ux-0002OE-LF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:34:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EM4uA-0002MS-PM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:33:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EM4u5-0002KD-70 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:33:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EM4u5-0002K9-0T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:33:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.162.205] (helo=zproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EM4kc-0004il-0v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:23:38 -0400 Original-Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so151538nzf for ; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 07:23:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=X26vLMBmqsLuxOtDWzhJHZV43ihQTJ7KECSTNeRawQ1IUmR5kDEZYDVj56SNu/OMBus55xXefdQjOg/mHhOind4+jL6uet4rZUHqhkcHajQUmeMYtf3cpMslbHjr41DcN202jmLKGnj9bLzdbflO6q0QO7VlMHHIQ8SfDDi9wIY= Original-Received: by 10.37.18.42 with SMTP id v42mr3400512nzi; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 07:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.36.36.6 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 07:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: Ken Manheimer , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Andreas Schwab In-Reply-To: <20051002104823.GA31722@kenny.sha-bang.local> Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:43452 Archived-At: On 10/2/05, Sascha Wilde wrote: > On Sat, Oct 01, 2005 at 12:28:17PM -0400, Ken Manheimer wrote: > > > I emerged it and got access to gpp and the info file. it > > looks nice - clean - but appears to have the same drawback, for my > > purposes, as mailcrypt. it will decrypt messages encoded with a > > symmetric key, but provides no api for encrypting with a symmetric > > key. that lack is a show-stopper for my purposes. > > So you would consider switching to pgg, if it would provide an > interface to symmetric encryption? yes. it would probably be a relief - allout goes through different contortions to use crypt++ than it does for mailcrypt. i expect my code could simplify, overall, if it used a single, fairly clean encryption interface. > > it may well be that pgg is preferable, somehow, to mailcrypt - they > > both offer similar functionality, including key caching, as well as > > the lack of an interface for encrypting with a symmetric key. but the > > changeover won't gain me anything i can yet see - i'll still need to > > also use crypt++ for the symmetric key encoding. > > The reason I asked is, that pgg is, just like allout, part of GNU > Emacs 22 -- so IMO it would be desirable to have the howl > functionality of allout "out of the box" with GNU emacs. that would be a compelling reason. i could allocate some time to incorporate pgg into allout, ditching the dependencies on crypt++ and mailcrypt, if pgg provided for encrypting with symmetric keys. i don't think i have the time to develop that extension of pgg however. do you think someone else might do that? that would be cool... ken ken.manheimer@gmail.com