From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Variable-width font indentation Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:03:21 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <2ca6f8cf-96f6-9caf-d72b-739a8f9cc28d@cs.ucla.edu> References: <87inaiss6l.fsf@web.de> <6FCF6ACA-4F29-4B6B-BE9D-D7130C6E9495@gnu.org> <87fu5moe4c.fsf@web.de> <877eqyocro.fsf@web.de> <83zi3uz4nb.fsf@gnu.org> <0b1dd3fa-e0b0-ed20-a256-dd92d1c1826f@dancol.org> <8bc3c4c7-dfc7-987a-95e7-bd309e2326c6@cs.ucla.edu> <03118DC0-39DA-4AB5-980E-A33809B9A5EE@raeburn.org> <83vaeas8uz.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgf6s3aa.fsf@gnu.org> <838tb5rxoe.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgf5q73p.fsf@gnu.org> <4742f0ae-86b5-48f9-4601-4dbba9e6380d@gmail.com> <83bmfzreaq.fsf@gnu.org> <838tb2ptpw.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1520546534 21448 195.159.176.226 (8 Mar 2018 22:02:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 22:02:14 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 08 23:02:09 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eu3c0-0005Rw-Mf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 23:02:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42085 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eu3e1-0005e1-MA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 17:04:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49068) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eu3dK-0005cs-H8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 17:03:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eu3dJ-0004J8-PC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 17:03:30 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:56050) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eu3dG-0004HK-4R; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 17:03:26 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA90C160066; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:03:22 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id POrN3l6J2rL3; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:03:22 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF6B16170F; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:03:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id xChxKIIfZKdC; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:03:21 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6916160066; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:03:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <838tb2ptpw.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:223519 Archived-At: On 03/08/2018 05:44 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Yes, using variable-pitch fonts in code where indentation is important > has its disadvantages, and always will. Any solution will have the > same issues, just under different use cases and situations. That's > why this is not the main use case Although it has disadvantages, it shouldn't be that hard to do it better=20 than Emacs does it now (along the lines that Cl=C3=A9ment prototyped), an= d if=20 Emacs had these improvements the benefits of variable-pitch fonts would=20 outweigh the costs in many practical programming applications.=20 Programming in variable-width fonts makes more-efficient use of valuable=20 screen real estate, so it's worth doing when it works reasonably well,=20 as it often would if Emacs supported it better.