From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Easy/Possible to globally change prompt strings of messages? e.g. changing find-file's prompt string from "Find file:" to "open file:" ? Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 14:11:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2aa3a8e0-b8a0-40cd-bd9b-550dffa921ec@default> References: <90b92a22-d34c-4f7e-953e-74444f42e767@googlegroups.com> <54CB109E.1030802@gmail.com> <54CC1410.1050408@gmail.com> <54CC2360.20102@gmail.com> <54CC2420.9050306@gmail.com> <87y4ohlora.fsf@web.de> <54CEB42D.2020002@gmail.com> <87egq8ugz6.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422915121 19963 80.91.229.3 (2 Feb 2015 22:12:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 22:12:01 +0000 (UTC) To: Marcin Borkowski , Michael Heerdegen , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 02 23:11:57 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YIPDl-0002qU-Hw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 23:11:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56906 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIPDk-0000AO-PP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 17:11:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54241) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIPDY-0000AH-EO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 17:11:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIPDU-0004D8-6z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 17:11:40 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:27441) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIPDU-0004Cx-0s for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 17:11:36 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t12MBYLT019565 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 2 Feb 2015 22:11:34 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t12MBW7V022841 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 2 Feb 2015 22:11:33 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t12MBWAf022832; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 22:11:32 GMT In-Reply-To: <87egq8ugz6.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102450 Archived-At: > > OK. Thanks everyone for your help. I think I'll just get used to "Fin= d > > file" for now. :) >=20 > For now. Yeah, sure. > And in five years, when some Emacs newbie asks you about all those > strange terms, you'll say: "Young \(wo\)?man, forget about the newspeak > of opening files in panes, using tabs, cutting and pasting, moving the > cursor and pressing Ctrl+F. Instead, embrace the ancient wisdom of > visiting files in windows, using buffers, killing and yanking, moving > the point and pressing C-s." Welcome to the rabbit hole. Yup. "Ancient wisdom" or not, rabbit hole or not, that's the Emacs jargon. Suppose you do change things locally to teach Emacs not to use its own jargon etc. - and you can do so to different degrees, though it might mean jumping through a few hoops (is it worth it?). Then you have difficulty communicating with (e.g., helping) others, because that jargon is what is used by the application itself and its community. For better or worse. Learn to speak Emacs - that's my advice. Whether you think it represents "ancient wisdom" or not. And if you feel strongly about some bit of jargon, then argue on emacs-devel@gnu.org to change it.