From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Unuseful keybindings Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:44:06 -0800 Message-ID: <2F9038F06F6B4465B50F3CD17D8FFD20@us.oracle.com> References: <87sj73qzvl.fsf@gmail.com> <87623zquvw.fsf@gmail.com><87ip7zdud3.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehiiu5x7.fsf@gnu.org><876A7D1112084247AE53F7EE42B4587C@us.oracle.com><80ehih3hlj.fsf@somewhere.org> <87pq21iwrw.fsf@yandex.ru><87AE81CEB91846DB94BC5F3B40C788DE@us.oracle.com><50D64318.5030501@yandex.ru><0FBA2D9ECA214D82B5C65E5A09E7EE19@us.oracle.com><50D71824.90601@yandex.ru> <87zk14erzf.fsf@gmail.com><8BDC32F4508344789126C54D4A22C605@us.oracle.com> <874njcwth9.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1356288272 3381 80.91.229.3 (23 Dec 2012 18:44:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Sebastien Vauban' , 'Dmitry Gutov' To: "'Jambunathan K'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 23 19:44:47 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TmqXW-0003zr-FK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:44:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34404 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmqXI-0002nV-I7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:44:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55298) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmqXD-0002n1-Mh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:44:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmqX7-0007oP-DZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:44:27 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:39892) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmqX7-0007oG-7J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:44:21 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qBNIiIh3018410 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:44:19 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qBNIiHUg009040 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:44:18 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt101.oracle.com (abhmt101.oracle.com [141.146.116.53]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qBNIiHcF031544; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:44:17 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:44:17 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <874njcwth9.fsf@gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: Ac3hNR4298o2MvJCRvWJ/p0JJK9NoAABz/yw X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155825 Archived-At: > >> I am a touch-typer. (Even) accessing `%', `(' keys slows me down > >> considerably. Using F-Keys for routine tasks is definitely beyond > >> question. As far as I am concerned, any discussion on F-Key is NA > >> or Don't Care for me. > > > > You don't care for your own use, but does that mean that > > you also do not care what Emacs binds by default for others? > > Yes, I do not care what Emacs does by default. Too bad for Emacs. So your input on questions of default behavior (like this one) is just irrelevant noise, I guess. No? > I am one of those users who doesn't rely on F-Keys much, > because reaching it is too bothersome. Me too. But that doesn't stop me from caring about what Emacs offers for others.