Re: Defaults for Org variables

[Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl>]

On Sep 16, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl> writes:
>> In a different thread, Sebastian Rose writes:
>>
>>> Footnotes:
>>>
>>> [1] We should discuss this in an extra thread: make log-into- 
>>> drawer and
>>>   clocking the default and just have it turned on (is it the
>>>   default??). It's sooo useful.  And I'm sure, Alice would simply
>>>   enjoy it (without any customization !!!).
>>
>> I am always open to discuss new defaults for variables.  However,
>> let me tell you my motivation for this specific case.
>>
>> While I agree that it is extremely useful to get notes and clocking
>> into drawers,  this is a feature that is quite magical for a new
>> user and maybe hard to understand.  I mean, you clock in an nothing
>> happens - sort of.  This is why I felt it is better to just have
>> this stuff plainly visible in the buffer when Org comes out of
>> the box.
>
> Hmm - I see.
>
> You're talking about drawers only. Is the clocking feature on by
> default? I still have this function in my setup:
>
>
> (defun sr-org-todo-state-toggled()
>  "Start the clock, if the state of a todo item changes to 'STARTED'."
>  (if(string= "STARTED" state)
>      (org-clock-in)
>    (org-clock-out-if-current)))
>
> (setq org-after-todo-state-change-hook 'sr-org-todo-state-toggled)

I don't think this can be the default, I am not sure all people
would use it like this.  Bernt, for example, has many STARTED entries
around at any time.

>
>
> There is some guidance, actually more than most of the other modes
> provide. The user can access the clocked task (and clock out) simply
> through the modeline menu.  That modeline entry seems to be on by
> default, as I can't find anything about it in my setup.
>
> Once clocked in, the user is prompted, if she wants to clock out when
> exiting Emacs.
>
>
> I have to admit, that I'm not aware of the defaults anymore (didn't  
> use
> them since a year or so). I'll have to create another user on my  
> system,
> to check :)

Or just call org-submit-bug-report which will show you all your non- 
default
settings, including hooks.

- Carsten