From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3438: please make line-move-visual nil Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:33:54 -0700 Message-ID: <2E369A57A535414C8193711D4740ACC5__6246.44983695379$1243913138$gmane$org@us.oracle.com> References: <6161f3180905270548t3012bc1ah161719ae01db0fb5@mail.gmail.com> <5f0ff9220906010736paad9321td86fd52326ebe722@mail.gmail.com> <87oct7sur8.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <31703F2EAE7D4CAF8E671B0C18916D01@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Drew Adams , 3438@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1243913138 30352 80.91.229.12 (2 Jun 2009 03:25:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 03:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3438@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, "'T.V. 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Original-Received: from rgminet11.oracle.com (rcsinet11.oracle.com [148.87.113.123]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n51LXkmv005978 for <3438@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:33:47 -0700 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rgminet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n51LYPTV020065 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:34:27 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt001.oracle.com (abhmt001.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n51LYYVS005742; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:34:34 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.65.100) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:33:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acni/4VvJZuFKILrSNCH+rtUmClpYAAADGMQ X-Source-IP: abhmt001.oracle.com [141.146.116.10] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090208.4A244932.0118:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:57:25 -0400 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:24:11 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:28431 Archived-At: > > I proposed making the variable always buffer-local. If you > > don't want to do that, then yes, each mode for which nil > > is appropriate would need to do that. > > I think this is a global feature. Making it buffer local by default is > probably not the best then. Why? No reason given. But you say "then", as if being a global variable is a reason it shouldn't have a buffer-local value. > It would be on the same level as makeing > the binding of C-n/C-p buffer local by default. Since we have apparently replaced the classic behavior of `next-line', so it respects `line-move-visual', yes. (But I personally have no problem if we go back to the classic behavior, with normal line movement in all buffers.) If a non-nil value of `line-move-visual' is not appropriate for some (most?) buffers, but (some people think) it is appropriate for some other buffers, then that's the obvious conclusion: make it buffer-local.