From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8690: 24.0.50; `declare' doc; conflict with cl-macs.el Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:53:47 -0700 Message-ID: <2D831DA3AA154F25BA26096E04580880@us.oracle.com> References: <98E51A77662843EDB8887B68CC9828DF@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310742812 30511 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2011 15:13:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8690@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 15 17:13:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhk4y-0003Ti-7O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:13:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46044 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhk4w-0007Sa-J2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:13:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41839) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhjnF-0001kf-Aq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:55:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhjnD-0002EW-DH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:55:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59963) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhjnD-0002ED-3P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:55:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhjnC-0003WY-BW; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:55:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8690 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 8690-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8690.131074164313476 (code B ref 8690); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:55:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8690) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 14:54:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhjmF-0003VJ-LP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:54:03 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhjmE-0003Uo-9e for 8690@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p6FErsqW014491 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:53:56 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6FErraR007217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:53:54 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt103.oracle.com (abhmt103.oracle.com [141.146.116.55]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p6FErmCS020320; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:53:48 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.34.212) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:53:48 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcxC9dEiQIc1juCgTjyebn6mu8xNHgACFAdA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A020202.4E205484.00BB:SCFMA922111,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:55:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49153 Archived-At: > > So perhaps the fix here is just to copy over the doc string from the > > subr.el version to the cl-macs.el version? > > I wrote a new doc string for the cl-macs.el version. Hopefully your new doc is _not_ the same as what is in subr.el, unless these two versions of the macro are in effect the same thing. It is a bug, if the behaviors are different, to use the same doc. That makes things even more confusing. Any differences between the two macros that affect results or behavior need to be called out in the doc. Hopefully you did that (?). It's unfortunate that Emacs Dev sometimes uses the same names for cl.el stuff and non-cl.el stuff. And the addition of `declare' to non-cl Emacs is recent. Hopefully the macros are identical in effect. If not then we are introducing bugs. But if they are identical, then we should remove the cl.el version altogether, so I'm guessing that they are not.