From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Jan_Dj=C3=A4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: -rv on a tty Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 11:13:06 +0100 Message-ID: <2D65AA62-3D2D-4422-B4FF-8043AE4FE0E4@swipnet.se> References: <8339qdgzcp.fsf@gnu.org> <87sjydw3nv.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83zkskg8vh.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291544059 9676 80.91.229.12 (5 Dec 2010 10:14:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 10:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 05 11:14:13 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPBbf-0003N5-Pg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:14:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43819 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PPBbe-0006gS-RF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 05:14:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41097 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PPBbV-0006gI-QS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 05:14:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PPBbU-0007Ja-S1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 05:14:01 -0500 Original-Received: from smtprelay-h21.telenor.se ([195.54.99.196]:59630) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PPBbS-0007Ib-PK; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 05:13:58 -0500 Original-Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (ipb1.telenor.se [195.54.127.164]) by smtprelay-h21.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77258EB9B4; Sun, 5 Dec 2010 11:13:54 +0100 (CET) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.100] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8vAIH0+kxV4S1kPGdsb2JhbACIH5oxYQwBAQEBNS29QYVJBI4B X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,301,1288566000"; d="scan'208";a="156719604" Original-Received: from c-642de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.100]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 05 Dec 2010 11:13:53 +0100 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.248] (janiphone [172.20.199.248]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 804947FA05A; Sun, 5 Dec 2010 11:13:52 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <83zkskg8vh.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:133429 Archived-At: 5 dec 2010 kl. 05:07 skrev Eli Zaretskii : >> From: Chong Yidong >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:53:40 -0500 >>=20 >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>=20 >>> Bug #5421 is a regression from Emacs 22, so I think it should be fixed >>> before releasing v23.3. >>=20 >> I'll take a look at it if I find the time >=20 > Thanks. >=20 >> but I do with the -rv option had never been invented. It seems to >> serve no purpose except make redisplay more complicated. >=20 > I agree that it complicates things, but I think we didn't invent it: > it's a standard option of every GUI application on X, isn't it? It was standard on Xt-based applications, but not so for Gtk+ or Qt-based ap= plications. Switching foreground and background was easy back then with old style fonts.= With aa-fonts and transparency things are more complicated. Jan D.=