From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Marking old window variables obsolete Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:16:12 -0700 Message-ID: <2C6E1B3A8D6C411980AFBD9472E76E03@us.oracle.com> References: <87fw7wpfid.fsf@gnu.org> <6863B68E762149B28EF9C1A159D441A3@us.oracle.com> <83r4rgdpgt.fsf@gnu.org> <83mx24dn26.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1344536192 3269 80.91.229.3 (9 Aug 2012 18:16:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 09 20:16:30 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SzXHT-0004ls-Jh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:16:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37794 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SzXHS-0000HN-Ow for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:16:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55884) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SzXHQ-0000H7-1b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:16:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SzXHP-0007Rb-24 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:16:19 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:44721) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SzXHN-0007OR-He; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:16:17 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q79IGEH8008142 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:16:15 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q79IGDw3013029 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:16:14 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt109.oracle.com (abhmt109.oracle.com [141.146.116.61]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q79IGDXA020897; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:16:13 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.248) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 11:16:13 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <83mx24dn26.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac12T3pNuuDE0jDQT9CBQuotbz3YXgACwaNg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 141.146.126.227 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152371 Archived-At: > > My request is first that we do not deprecate these user > > options _now_. > > How else can we encourage users to migrate to the new machinery? Sheesh. If that's the only way users can be encouraged to adopt the new machinery, that doesn't say much about how appealing it is, does it? Users generally have little problem adopting new features that they find (or even suspect might be) useful.