From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10153: 24.0.91; behavior of TAB in text modes is different Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 07:39:00 -0800 Message-ID: <2AB87B84E3C84938A49039098CACAD95@us.oracle.com> References: <87d3ccr7f5.fsf@gnu.org> <87ty5n0xgo.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1322581217 26481 80.91.229.12 (29 Nov 2011 15:40:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10153@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Chong Yidong'" , "'Glenn Morris'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 29 16:40:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVPn2-0005pI-DH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:40:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37006 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVPn1-0005MU-Uz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:40:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38716) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVPmy-0005KA-SS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:40:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVPms-0001sx-LC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:40:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44343) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVPms-0001st-Ff for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:40:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVPoo-0000Ve-7d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:42:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10153 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10153-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10153.13225812731901 (code B ref 10153); Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:42:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10153) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2011 15:41:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVPo1-0000Uc-Ka for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:41:13 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVPnz-0000UV-SI for 10153@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:41:12 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id pATFd9E0007323 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:39:10 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pATFd8Un023336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:39:09 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt112.oracle.com (abhmt112.oracle.com [141.146.116.64]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id pATFd3oJ015623; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 09:39:03 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.48.118) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 07:39:02 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87ty5n0xgo.fsf@gnu.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: AcyuqiCC6obtSnAqTnG8ba78ImzhRwAAgC8A X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4ED4FC9E.00B0,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:42:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:54423 Archived-At: > >> It appears that when the region is active, TAB in text > >> mode now tries to indent to the previous line, i.e. it > >> behaves like TAB in programming modes. Is this is a new > >> intended feature? > > The new behavior seems to make more sense, so I guess I'll > add a NEWS item and fix the indent-region doc. Personally, I don't use text mode that much, and I don't care, for my personal use. But my guess is that there will be many Emacs users who will be confused by this, expecting TAB to indent (if not to simply insert a TAB char). Not because that's what TAB did in the past in Emacs, but because that's more or less the behavior many newbies are used to, from other text editors. My crystal ball whispers to me that there will be lots more questions posed by newbies, to which the answer will be "Deactivate the region or use `C-q TAB'." I would suggest keeping TAB in text mode simple, not DWIM.