Emacs pretest 24.3.91

Emacs pretest 24.3.91

[Glenn Morris]

The next pretest for what will be the 24.4 release of Emacs
(the extensible text editor) is available at

  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-24.3.91.tar.xz

Please give it as much testing as you can.

As always, if you encounter problems building or using Emacs,
send a report to bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org with full details
(if possible, use M-x report-emacs-bug).

Thanks for helping to test Emacs.

Re: Emacs pretest 24.3.91

[Steve Revilak]

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> The next pretest for what will be the 24.4 release of Emacs
> (the extensible text editor) is available at
> 
>  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-24.3.91.tar.xz
> 
> Please give it as much testing as you can.

Hi all,

I've installed the 24.3.91 pretest on three systems

-- Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.4 (Santiago)
GNU Emacs 24.3.91.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.9) of 2014-05-12 on srevilak-l

-- openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (x86_64)
GNU Emacs 24.3.91.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.22) of 2014-05-16 on sunny

-- Debian 7.4
GNU Emacs 24.3.91.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2014-05-16 on srevilak


There was one minor surprise in the Debian 7.4 installation.  During
"make install", I received several screenfulls of

   See the man page for ginstall-info for command line arguments
   This is not dpkg install-info anymore, but GNU install-info

I haven't noticed any ill-effects from this (i.e., info mode seems to
work properly), but the screenfulls of warnings were a bit of a
surprise.

Steve

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Re: Emacs pretest 24.3.91

[Glenn Morris]

Steve Revilak wrote:

> There was one minor surprise in the Debian 7.4 installation.  During
> "make install", I received several screenfulls of
>
>   See the man page for ginstall-info for command line arguments
>   This is not dpkg install-info anymore, but GNU install-info


It is a harmless irritation. It's just what Debian's "install-info"
program prints, every time it is called. AFAIK it's been doing it for
years, you'd think it could stop now...

https://wiki.debian.org/Transitions/DpkgToGnuInstallInfo

Anyway, I installed this to shut it up:

--- a/configure.ac	2014-05-12 06:11:08 +0000
+++ b/configure.ac	2014-05-17 01:38:33 +0000
@@ -965,7 +965,7 @@
   LN_S="/bin/ln"
 fi
 
-AC_PATH_PROG(INSTALL_INFO, install-info, :,
+AC_PATH_PROGS(INSTALL_INFO, [ginstall-info install-info], :,
   $PATH$PATH_SEPARATOR/usr/sbin$PATH_SEPARATOR/sbin)
 dnl Don't use GZIP, which is used by gzip for additional parameters.
 AC_PATH_PROG(GZIP_PROG, gzip)

Re: Emacs pretest 24.3.91

[Sven Joachim]

On 2014-05-17 03:43 +0200, Glenn Morris wrote:

> Steve Revilak wrote:
>
>> There was one minor surprise in the Debian 7.4 installation.  During
>> "make install", I received several screenfulls of
>>
>>   See the man page for ginstall-info for command line arguments
>>   This is not dpkg install-info anymore, but GNU install-info
>
>
> It is a harmless irritation. It's just what Debian's "install-info"
> program prints, every time it is called. AFAIK it's been doing it for
> years, you'd think it could stop now...

I filed a bug report[1] to that end.

Cheers,
       Sven


1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=748433

Re: Emacs pretest 24.3.91

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 21:43:08 -0400
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> Steve Revilak wrote:
> 
> > There was one minor surprise in the Debian 7.4 installation.  During
> > "make install", I received several screenfulls of
> >
> >   See the man page for ginstall-info for command line arguments
> >   This is not dpkg install-info anymore, but GNU install-info
> 
> 
> It is a harmless irritation. It's just what Debian's "install-info"
> program prints, every time it is called. AFAIK it's been doing it for
> years, you'd think it could stop now...
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/Transitions/DpkgToGnuInstallInfo
> 
> Anyway, I installed this to shut it up:
> 
> --- a/configure.ac	2014-05-12 06:11:08 +0000
> +++ b/configure.ac	2014-05-17 01:38:33 +0000
> @@ -965,7 +965,7 @@
>    LN_S="/bin/ln"
>  fi
>  
> -AC_PATH_PROG(INSTALL_INFO, install-info, :,
> +AC_PATH_PROGS(INSTALL_INFO, [ginstall-info install-info], :,
>    $PATH$PATH_SEPARATOR/usr/sbin$PATH_SEPARATOR/sbin)
>  dnl Don't use GZIP, which is used by gzip for additional parameters.
>  AC_PATH_PROG(GZIP_PROG, gzip)

But this will pick up ginstall-info on any system that happens to have
it, and do that in preference to install-info, won't it?  E.g., on my
system, I see I have ginstall-info.exe from some ancient Texinfo
distribution, and sure enough, configure now wants to use that.

So how is this a good idea, and during the pretest on top of that?
I'd support doing this on Debian only, but not on every system out
there.

Re: Emacs pretest 24.3.91

[Glenn Morris]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> But this will pick up ginstall-info on any system that happens to have
> it, and do that in preference to install-info, won't it?  E.g., on my
> system, I see I have ginstall-info.exe from some ancient Texinfo
> distribution, and sure enough, configure now wants to use that.

I wasn't aware ginstall-info existed anywhere else.
Do you think anyone else is likely to have it around?

> I'd support doing this on Debian only, but not on every system out
> there.

I don't like that idea. I'd rather just revert it.

Re: Emacs pretest 24.3.91

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: steve@srevilak.net,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 14:39:47 -0400
> 
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> > But this will pick up ginstall-info on any system that happens to have
> > it, and do that in preference to install-info, won't it?  E.g., on my
> > system, I see I have ginstall-info.exe from some ancient Texinfo
> > distribution, and sure enough, configure now wants to use that.
> 
> I wasn't aware ginstall-info existed anywhere else.
> Do you think anyone else is likely to have it around?

Anyone who once installed an old Texinfo 4.8 port to Windows, and
didn't bother to delete ginstall-info.exe, will have it.  That port
came with both install-info.exe and ginstall-info.exe, for reasons I
cannot fathom.

If that's the only reasonable scenario besides Debian, perhaps we
could add something specific to Windows to countermand this, so that
we could still be friendly to Debian?

Re: Emacs pretest 24.3.91

[Stefan Monnier]

> I don't like that idea. I'd rather just revert it.

Reverting is OK: after all, Debian just issues a harmless warning and it's
been that way for a long time now, so it's not clear that it needs to be
"fixed".


        Stefan