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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
Cc: 22604@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22604: 24.5; (elisp) `Key Binding Conventions': what about other `C-c' keys?
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 07:06:50 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <29ac44ad-3c5d-486e-abd7-a7ef70e906d1@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mvmtwliw7vu.fsf@hawking.suse.de>

> > This node mentions about keys following `C-c', but only `{', `}', `<',
> > `>', `:', `;', control chars, digits, letters, and "other punctuation".
> >
> > What about keys `-', `+', `@', `#', `%', `^', `&', `*', `=', etc.?  These
> > are not mentioned.
> 
> Aren't those covered by "other punctuation"?  It certainly matches what
> C calls punctuation characters.

As I said, I would like to read it that way also.  But there is no
mention of C or punctuation in a programming language, and those
are not usually considered punctuation in English etc., AFAIK.
And then there is the punctuation syntax class - does it mean that
these key conventions change, depending on which chars have
punctuation status in the current syntax table?

I would like the text to be a bit clearer about just what is meant,
including whether the notion of "punctuation" here is meant to
follow syntax class `.' (punctuation).

The bug report asks that we make clear which character keys we mean.
There may be other ones in other languages etc., but at least the
usual such keys on a typical US keyboard should be considered (and
so mentioned) as falling under what is said for "other punctuation".

For example, Lars recently proposed, in bug thread 22172, to bind
`C-c +' and `C-c -' by default.  Making the doc clearer about this
would preclude such a suggestion, as those keys would fall under
the category of "other punctuation", which is reserved for minor modes.





  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-09 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-08 23:48 bug#22604: 24.5; (elisp) `Key Binding Conventions': what about other `C-c' keys? Drew Adams
2016-02-09  1:13 ` Philipp Stephani
2016-02-09  2:38   ` Drew Adams
2016-02-09  9:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-09 15:06   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-02-09 15:24     ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-09 15:29       ` Drew Adams
2016-02-09 16:51         ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-09 17:04         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]         ` <<838u2tddcs.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-02-09 17:24           ` Drew Adams
2016-02-09 18:16             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]         ` << <838u2tddcs.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <<a93a8d1c-5383-4851-a45d-0ccdb7288dab@default>
     [not found]             ` <<83pow5bvgc.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-02-09 18:33               ` Drew Adams
2016-02-09 19:18                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 17:41       ` Eli Zaretskii

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