From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Stefan Vollmar Subject: Re: Basic orgmode tutorial Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:07:33 +0100 Message-ID: <29E95302-9095-49D4-AB79-FE7861CD1428@nf.mpg.de> References: <10AEC517-6BBA-4436-B567-D1D5AB6A78C8@gmail.com> <20100323220701.GE18401@thinkpad.adamsinfoserv.com> <0C588648-02E7-4C91-B66F-F994DBDB0433@gmail.com> <20100324171848.GK16785@thinkpad.adamsinfoserv.com> <87ocidzgfx.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NuZfp-0000PR-Kn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:07:41 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57723 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NuZfo-0000Ok-12 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:07:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuZfl-0001GP-Ve for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:07:39 -0400 Received: from mail.nf.mpg.de ([134.95.44.50]:52099) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuZfl-0001Fw-Pe for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:07:37 -0400 Received: from [192.168.178.21] (pD9527F9D.dip.t-dialin.net [217.82.127.157]) by mail.nf.mpg.de (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.03 (built Apr 24 2009; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZT0051V7011R00@mail.nf.mpg.de> for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:09:38 +0100 (MET) In-reply-to: <87ocidzgfx.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode Cc: Dan Davison , Russell Adams , Carsten Dominik Dear Dan, dear Russell, dear Carsten, On 24.03.2010, at 20:07, Dan Davison wrote: > Russell Adams writes: >=20 >> I discussed this with a few users off an on. >>=20 >> In the manual there are items required to setup org, keybindings, = etc. >>=20 >> The idea would be to include: >>=20 >> - An Agenda file, which loads by default >> - Init file which >> - Preconfigured keybindings >> - Remember keybinding for basic todo to agenda file >> - Configured auto-mode-alist >> - Recommended Global key maps >=20 > I think this sort of approach, perhaps as part of an org-mode emacs > distribution, sounds like a very good idea. I agree and I had in mind "distributions" for Windows and for MacOS X. = Windows is not my favourite platform, however, this is also true for = many users who have no choice. I have already played a little with the = "official" GNU distribution over the last weeks: if one adds a recent = Org-mode version (upgrading Org-mode on Windows is a bit of a pain and = an efficient way to lose potential new users...) and (optionally) a = standard Windows installer (we like http://nsis.sourceforge.net for our = own projects), a little more "tweaking" will get you a long way towards = a real out-of-the-box Org-mode on Windows. There is also some work in progress on an Org-mode package for Aquamacs = (MacOS X) here. The idea is that upgrading Aquamacs to the latest = Org-mode release should be possible with a single click (or fairly few = clicks anyway). Both projects would benefit from and depend on suggestions on how to = implement Russell's list. Let me emphasize that we have no ambition to = create new "distributions" from scratch: I am quite confident that the = existing Windows GNU version and Aquamacs will only need comparatively = minor changes. Once upon a time I would have found an approach involving = "distributions" to upgrade only small portions of a large software = package wasteful and inefficient. However, these days we have the = bandwidth and, I feel, the advantages of potential new users outweigh = the inelegance of this brute force method. Any comments are welcome. Warm regards, Stefan --=20 Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys. Head of IT group Max-Planck-Institut f=FCr neurologische Forschung Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 K=F6ln, Germany Tel.: +49-221-4726-213 FAX +49-221-4726-298 Tel.: +49-221-478-5713 Mobile: 0160-93874279 Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de http://www.nf.mpg.de