* font handling broken in cvs emacs --with-ns (MacOS X)
@ 2009-01-04 18:28 B Smith-Mannschott
2009-01-04 18:52 ` Ian Eure
[not found] ` <62131EE9-6999-42CA-A9E6-F53B41768586@Web.DE>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: B Smith-Mannschott @ 2009-01-04 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
I've found what I believe to be a host of bugs and misbehaviors in the
font handling on Mac OS when built to use the native GUI toolkit
(--with-ns) from the current development sources. I'd like to gather
some feedback before filing a bug report. Have others observed this as
well?
* Font-related Bugs in CVS Emacs (--with-ns)
I've been seeing what appear to be font-related bugs in CVS Emacs.
*** Local Configuration
I'm running Mac OS X 10.5.6, and gcc 4.0.1:
$ uname -a
Darwin Meheadable.local 9.6.0
Darwin Kernel Version 9.6.0: Mon Nov 24 17:37:00 PST 2008;
root:xnu-1228.9.59~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
$ gcc --version | head -n 1
i686-apple-darwin9-gcc-4.0.1 (GCC) 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5488)
I am building from a git mirror (git://git.sv.gnu.org/emacs) of the
emacs CVS repository. The most recent commit is:
commit f9b236eddbb6d8a7f827cbd9321894a622206a27
Author: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Date: Sun Jan 4 13:09:35 2009 +0000
*** empty log message ***
Here's what I'm doing to build emacs:
# Nuke build products from orbit. I don't trust make's ability to
# build Emacs.app incrementally. I've been screwed by it too
# often.
git clean -f
git reset --hard HEAD
for x in */*.dSYM ; do rm -rf "$x" ; done
./configure --with-ns # self-contained
make
make install
*** I expect to be able to use a font other than Monaco 12pt
Emacs comes up by default in Monaco 12pt. It's as good a choice as any
for the default. I'd like to change it (to Consolas-12). (Since this
isn't CarbonEmacs, i can't use mac-font-panel-mode, more's the pitty.)
I've found a work-around using some elisp, but all the Obvious
approaches seem broken.
***** First attempt: Preferences
1. From the menu Emacs choose Preferences
2. Click on the button "Default Font..."
3. (Fonts panel opens)
4. Choose "Consolas", "Regular", "12"
5. Close Font Panel
6. Dismiss "Emacs Preferences" by clicking "OK"
7. (Observe that the font in the currently opened emacs buffers
*has* *not* changed.)
8. (restarting emacs after making this change doesn't help either.)
Setting the default font in emacs preferences has no effect. I would
expect it to change the default font.
***** Second attempt: M-x set-default-font
1. M-x set-default-font
2. (mode line prompts for font name:)
3. Hitting tab for completion reveals that there are zero possible
fonts. (no match)
I would expect there to be fonts in the completion list of
set-default-font, at the very least one might reasonably expect Monaco
to make an appearance. Instead, the list of candidates for default
font is empty.
***** Third attempt: M-x set-face-font
1. M-x set-face-font
2. Set font-related attributes of face: default
3. Set font-related attriutes of face `default' from font:
4. Hitting tab for completion at this point produces the following list:
-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-default
-apple-Monaco-medium-normal-normal-Regular-*-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-startup
-ns-*-*-*-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-standard
Clearly something is amiss. Where, for example is Courier? Or for that
matter, Consolas, which I have installed.
***** Fourth attempt: Via context menu
On the X11 version of emacs built from *the very same source*
S-mouse-1 pops up a menu "Change Default Buffer Face". I tried this on
my --with-ns build of emacs. No such menu is displayed.
CarbonEmacs still had this menu, or its equivalent. Emacs.app (CVS
HEAD --with-ns) doesn't, presumably because the rewritten font
handling makes it obsolete -- or rather, would make it obsolete if it
*worked*.
***** Fifth attempt: a little elisp
This is a work-around for the problems described above, which works.
I wrote the code used here while using an earlier version of emacs
(probably CarbonEmacs). I'd never have been able to guess the correct
values for the properties of 'default-face.
I've defined the following function:
(defun bpsm-set-font-consolas ()
(interactive)
(set-face-attribute 'default nil
:background "#ffffff"
:family "consolas"
:foreground "#000000"
:foundry "apple"
:height 120
:inverse-video nil
:slant 'normal
:weight 'normal
:width 'semi-condensed))
1. Execute M-x bpsm-set-font-consolas
2. (observe that the font of all windows in all open frames has
changed to consolas)
This is not a complete solution, however, as fonts which do not
inherit from 'default remain unchanged. This is ok for faces like
'variable-path,link.
This is a problem for faces like 'org-column-face, which continues to
use Monaco despite the fact that I've set Consolas above.
(Earlier emacs builds and a more cluttered .emacs were giving me a
scrunched up rendition of some fat proportional serif font chosen
seemingly at random in place of org-column, so I'm thankful for small
blessings.)
(defun bpsm-set-org-column-font-consolas ()
(interactive)
(set-face-attribute 'org-column nil
:background "grey90"
:family "consolas"
:foundry "apple"
:height 120
:slant 'normal
:weight 'medium))
--
// Ben Smith-Mannschott
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* Re: font handling broken in cvs emacs --with-ns (MacOS X)
2009-01-04 18:28 font handling broken in cvs emacs --with-ns (MacOS X) B Smith-Mannschott
@ 2009-01-04 18:52 ` Ian Eure
[not found] ` <62131EE9-6999-42CA-A9E6-F53B41768586@Web.DE>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ian Eure @ 2009-01-04 18:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: B Smith-Mannschott; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
On Jan 4, 2009, at 10:28 AM, B Smith-Mannschott wrote:
> I've found what I believe to be a host of bugs and misbehaviors in the
> font handling on Mac OS when built to use the native GUI toolkit
> (--with-ns) from the current development sources. I'd like to gather
> some feedback before filing a bug report. Have others observed this as
> well?
>
I'm running my own Cocoa builds from CVS[1]. As of the 2009/01/02
build, I'm able to change the font by:
1. Selecting an Emacs frame - in this case, containing one window with
an ERC buffer visible.
2. Going to Options -> Set Default Font in the menubar.
3. Choosing Courier from the font menu.
I offer the following observations:
- Changing the default font from preferences doesn't work for me.
Perhaps it sets the default, but doesn't apply it? Have you tried
setting it, saving customizations, quitting and restarting Emacs?
- Changing via Options->Set Default Font works for me.
- Changing via M-x set-default-font RET courier RET works for me.
Also worked to switch back to Monaco.
Hope this helps,
- Ian
[1]: http://atomized.org/wp-content/cocoa-emacs-nightly/
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* Re: font handling broken in cvs emacs --with-ns (MacOS X)
[not found] ` <62131EE9-6999-42CA-A9E6-F53B41768586@Web.DE>
@ 2009-01-04 22:22 ` B Smith-Mannschott
2009-01-04 23:28 ` Peter Dyballa
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: B Smith-Mannschott @ 2009-01-04 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Peter Dyballa, help-gnu-emacs
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@web.de> wrote:
>
> Am 04.01.2009 um 19:28 schrieb B Smith-Mannschott:
>
>> Here's what I'm doing to build emacs:
>>
>> # Nuke build products from orbit. I don't trust make's ability to
>> # build Emacs.app incrementally. I've been screwed by it too
>> # often.
>> git clean -f
>> git reset --hard HEAD
>> for x in */*.dSYM ; do rm -rf "$x" ; done
>
> Why are you doing it so complicatedly? Can you do it in Emacs? I once
> downloaded the sources with cvs in *shell* buffer. When I want to update
> (last eight hours ago) I do M-x cvs-up RET RET – and then *I* am doing it a
> bit complicated ...
>
>>
>> ./configure --with-ns # self-contained
>> make
>
> Documentation clearly states that after an update you need to do a 'make
> bootstrap' unless you wish to have a GNU mess.
>
>> make install
I do it this way because it works. And I don't need the build to be
fast. It would be different if I were hacking on emacs myself because
the long edit-compile-run cycle would be terrible. The takeaway from
my my experience with
http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1317 was
that at least this method is guaranteed to produce correct results.
I found the reference to make bootstrap in INSTALL.CVS (thanks grep).
I had been reading INSTALL, which doesn't breathe a word of it.
Scrubbing the source directory seems to force a make bootstrap, which
is good. If I find I need emacs to build faster, then I'll look into
INSTALL.CVS more carefully.
> I am used, from the X client version, a 'sudo make install' – but I am also
> used to configure with --disable-ns-self-contained so that most ELisp files
> are installed in /usr/local.
>
>>
>> Emacs comes up by default in Monaco 12pt. It's as good a choice as any
>> for the default. I'd like to change it (to Consolas-12). (Since this
>> isn't CarbonEmacs, i can't use mac-font-panel-mode, more's the pitty.)
>
> You don't need that Carbon stuff! Just choose from the Options menu "Set
> Default Font…"! Isn't it clearly documented?
I may have missed it among emacs' *1.9 million words* of documentation. ;-)
I almost never use the menus in emacs, so I didn't think to look there
as well. I only learned that Emacs has Preferences... item in its
application menu coincidentally because it was mentioned in some other
thread a few weeks ago.
But yes, Options >> Set Default Font works very nicely. It even saves
the setting when I choose Options >> Save Options. It writes something
about saving custom.el to the mode line, but that appears to be a lie:
(custom-set-faces
;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom.
;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
)
Is all that gets written. still, it's obviously storing the setting
somewhere, because the change I made is maintained across restarts of
emacs...
~/Library/Preferences/org.gnu.Emacs.plist
Fascinating. I see a lot of other stuff here too. settings for
org-mode, for example. Does Emacs.app write all customizations here
instead of custom.el? How will that jive with my attempts to keep a
single emacs configuration (in version control) across my Mac and
Linux machines?
>> ***** Fourth attempt: Via context menu
>>
>> On the X11 version of emacs built from *the very same source*
>> S-mouse-1 pops up a menu "Change Default Buffer Face". I tried this on
>> my --with-ns build of emacs. No such menu is displayed.
>
> Yes, this looks like a bug!
>
noted.
--
// Ben Smith-Mannschott
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* Re: font handling broken in cvs emacs --with-ns (MacOS X)
2009-01-04 22:22 ` B Smith-Mannschott
@ 2009-01-04 23:28 ` Peter Dyballa
2009-01-05 11:31 ` B Smith-Mannschott
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Peter Dyballa @ 2009-01-04 23:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: B Smith-Mannschott; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Am 04.01.2009 um 23:22 schrieb B Smith-Mannschott:
>> Documentation clearly states that after an update you need to do a
>> 'make
>> bootstrap' unless you wish to have a GNU mess.
>>
>>> make install
>
> I do it this way because it works.
If your way would work, then you would not need to consider writing a
bug report ...
> And I don't need the build to be fast.
A bootstrap built build is not faster – it just has up-to-date ELC
files.
> It would be different if I were hacking on emacs myself because
> the long edit-compile-run cycle would be terrible.
There are experienced GNU Emacs developers who take that burden from
you! And this makes the difference: you're not using the stable GNU
Emacs 22.3 (also in Carbon available) but the not yet released GNU
Emacs 23.0.60 *from CVS*. And therefore building it needs 'make
bootstrap.'
> I found the reference to make bootstrap in INSTALL.CVS (thanks grep).
> I had been reading INSTALL, which doesn't breathe a word of it.
> Scrubbing the source directory seems to force a make bootstrap, which
> is good. If I find I need emacs to build faster, then I'll look into
> INSTALL.CVS more carefully.
You're mixing up a few things! In a regular and stable GNU Emacs
release you won't see the INSTALL.CVS file. Does this help?
>> You don't need that Carbon stuff! Just choose from the Options
>> menu "Set
>> Default Font…"! Isn't it clearly documented?
>
> I may have missed it among emacs' *1.9 million words* of
> documentation. ;-)
Well, maybe you came too late to Emacs.app, because some weeks ago it
has lost from the Help menu an entry to read the part on Emacs.app.
Right now you can easily find in the Emacs node one on
* Mac OS / GNUstep:: Using Emacs under Mac OS and GNUstep.
>
> Is all that gets written. still, it's obviously storing the setting
> somewhere, because the change I made is maintained across restarts of
> emacs...
>
> ~/Library/Preferences/org.gnu.Emacs.plist
>
> Fascinating. I see a lot of other stuff here too. settings for
> org-mode, for example. Does Emacs.app write all customizations here
> instead of custom.el?
I don't think so. Only its "options" are saved in this XML file. (The
defaults command or Property List Editor also work on this file.)
> How will that jive with my attempts to keep a
> single emacs configuration (in version control) across my Mac and
> Linux machines?
Well, I make most of my changes into a *system* of init files. From
~/.emacs particular init and customisation files are read, mostly
depending on emacs-major-number and window-system.
--
Greetings
Pete
What is this talk of 'release?' Klingons do not make software
'releases.' Our software 'escapes,' leaving a bloody trail of
designers and quality assurance people in its wake.
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* Re: font handling broken in cvs emacs --with-ns (MacOS X)
2009-01-04 23:28 ` Peter Dyballa
@ 2009-01-05 11:31 ` B Smith-Mannschott
2009-01-05 14:04 ` Peter Dyballa
2009-01-06 12:34 ` B Smith-Mannschott
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: B Smith-Mannschott @ 2009-01-05 11:31 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Peter Dyballa; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
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On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@web.de> wrote:
> Am 04.01.2009 um 23:22 schrieb B Smith-Mannschott:
>
>>> Documentation clearly states that after an update you need to do a 'make
>>> bootstrap' unless you wish to have a GNU mess.
>>>
>>>> make install
>>
>> I do it this way because it works.
>
> If your way would work, then you would not need to consider writing a bug
> report ...
Noted, see end of message
>> And I don't need the build to be fast.
>
> A bootstrap built build is not faster – it just has up-to-date ELC files.
Noted, see end of message
>> It would be different if I were hacking on emacs myself because
>> the long edit-compile-run cycle would be terrible.
>
> There are experienced GNU Emacs developers who take that burden from you!
> And this makes the difference: you're not using the stable GNU Emacs 22.3
> (also in Carbon available) but the not yet released GNU Emacs 23.0.60 *from
> CVS*. And therefore building it needs 'make bootstrap.'
Yes, I'm aware that I'm using the bleeding edge version. I'm also
aware that it will contain bugs, though on the whole it's been very
stable.
>> I found the reference to make bootstrap in INSTALL.CVS (thanks grep).
>> I had been reading INSTALL, which doesn't breathe a word of it.
>> Scrubbing the source directory seems to force a make bootstrap, which
>> is good. If I find I need emacs to build faster, then I'll look into
>> INSTALL.CVS more carefully.
>
> You're mixing up a few things! In a regular and stable GNU Emacs release you
> won't see the INSTALL.CVS file. Does this help?
Not really. I'm building form CVS. By force of habit the first thing I
look for when building unix software from source is INSTALL (or
failing that README). If I find said document and it seems to
describe how to build the software, I generally stop looking and just
do what it says.
>>> You don't need that Carbon stuff! Just choose from the Options menu "Set
>>> Default Font…"! Isn't it clearly documented?
>>
>> I may have missed it among emacs' *1.9 million words* of documentation.
>> ;-)
>
> Well, maybe you came too late to Emacs.app, because some weeks ago it has
> lost from the Help menu an entry to read the part on Emacs.app. Right now
> you can easily find in the Emacs node one on
>
> * Mac OS / GNUstep:: Using Emacs under Mac OS and GNUstep.
Thanks for the pointer. I remember skimming the info file for this (in
source), but obviously didn't remember everything I'd read. I'll read
it again.
>> Is all that gets written. still, it's obviously storing the setting
>> somewhere, because the change I made is maintained across restarts of
>> emacs...
>>
>> ~/Library/Preferences/org.gnu.Emacs.plist
>>
>> Fascinating. I see a lot of other stuff here too. settings for
>> org-mode, for example. Does Emacs.app write all customizations here
>> instead of custom.el?
>
> I don't think so. Only its "options" are saved in this XML file. (The
> defaults command or Property List Editor also work on this file.)
The presence of org-mode entries seems to contradict this. (But either
way, this isn't causing problems for me.)
>> How will that jive with my attempts to keep a
>> single emacs configuration (in version control) across my Mac and
>> Linux machines?
>
>
> Well, I make most of my changes into a *system* of init files. From ~/.emacs
> particular init and customisation files are read, mostly depending on
> emacs-major-number and window-system.
I did something like that for a while, until it started to drive me
crazy because I was making the same config changes multiple times
(once for each window system, in my case). I switched to keeping most
customizations in my ~/.emacs.d/init.el and just using conditionals
there to, e.g. select the correct font depending on windowing
system. This limits the usefulness of customize and on balance I find
this only marginally better than what I was doing previously. live and
learn.
In summary, you seem to be making two assertions:
(1) running ( ./configure --with-ns ; make ; make install ) is not the
same as running ( ./configure --with-ns ; make bootstrap ; make ;
make install )
(2) This difference results in the misbehavior I am seeing. ("If your
way would work, then you would not need to consider writing a bug
report ...")
I've decided to take a more careful look at both of these points:
(1) The build logs with and without make bootstrap do differ. (see
build-u.diff.)
- A large chunk of the difference is removing files which are not
there. (Remember I'm starting from a clean checkout with no build
products.)
- The next difference is the regeneration of the Makefiles, which is
only necessary because the previous difference blew them away.
- The makeinfo runs for all the texi files occur earlier in the
"bootstrap" build.
- There are two minor differences in the "List of all Regions"
produced by temacs --batch --load loadup bootstrap. I don't know the
significance of these.
- There is a sequence of "make all" calls in lib-src, src, lisp, leim
which don't appear to actually do anything in my particular case.
The resulting build products do differ.
When I inspected a random sampling of the *.o and *.elc files that
differed, I found only differences in the compilation time stamp
(*.elc) and source directory path (*.o).
Given that the differences appear so minor, I would expect no
significant difference in the behavior of the two resulting builds of
Emacs.app.
(2) The behavior of Emacs.app wrt font handling issues under
discussion does not differ.
Using the Emacs.app resulting from the build that *did* use "make
bootstrap":
(2.1) Emacs >> Preferences >> Default Font
Does not set the default font.
This does not appear to be a bug; it's a documented misfeature:
Note that if you use the 'Default Font' button on the Preferences
panel, you must click on a frame before selecting a font,
otherwise nothing will happen. (ns-emacs.info)
Normally (on a Mac), one would expect the default font set through the
*Application-Wide* Preferences window to be, well, an application-wide
default and not per-frame setting. So really, this button in "Emacs
Preferences" is just a really clumbsy way of executing "Options >> Set
Default Font...". Is that sensible?
(2.2) set-default-font
Offers no completions for setting the default font.
C-h f, however reveals that: This function is obsolete since 23.1; use
set-frame-font instead. I had not previously noticed this. My bad.
set-frame-font: Offers no completions. Is the user meant to guess?
(2.3) M-x set-face-font
Offers only three possible completions, just as described in the
initial posting on this thread.
-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-default
-apple-Monaco-medium-normal-normal-Regular-*-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-startup
-ns-*-*-*-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-standard
(2.4) Context menu (S-mouse-1)
Menu still missing. This has already been identified as a bug.
Conclusion:
I've learned something about make bootstrap and INSTALL.CVS [1], which is
always nice. Having known this earlier, however, would not have
prevented the issues I am describing here.
"make bootstrap" does not make the font-related misbehavior go away.
[1] Indeed, I remember "make bootstrap" dimly from the last time I
regularly built emacs from sources which was probably five years
ago. When I began building from source again a few months ago and
didn't find it mentioned in INSTALL, I assumed (silly me) that
"make bootstrap" kicking around in my head must have been
obsoleted in the interim.
--
// Ben Smith-Mannschott
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--- build-log.txt 2009-01-05 10:40:41.000000000 +0100
+++ build-bootstrap-log.txt 2009-01-05 10:43:54.000000000 +0100
@@ -1,9 +1,10 @@
### We are located in a fresh emacs source checkout. There are no
### build products here.
###
### ./configure --with-ns
+### make bootstrap
### make
### make install
checking build system type... i386-apple-darwin9.6.0
checking host system type... i386-apple-darwin9.6.0
checking for gcc... gcc
@@ -365,10 +366,136 @@
config.status: creating src/config.h
config.status: executing default commands
creating src/epaths.h
creating lib-src/Makefile
creating src/Makefile
+(cd src; make bootstrap-clean)
+rm -f temacs prefix-args core *.core \#* *.o libXMenu11.a liblw.a
+rm -f ../etc/DOC
+rm -f bootstrap-emacs emacs-23.0.60
+rm -f buildobj.lst
+rm -f emacs-*.*.* emacs
+rm -fr /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/nextstep/Emacs.app/
+rm -f epaths.h config.h Makefile.c config.stamp stamp-oldxmenu ../etc/DOC-*
+if test -f ./.gdbinit; then mv ./.gdbinit ./.gdbinit.save; if test -f "/Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/src/.gdbinit"; then rm -f ./.gdbinit.save; else mv ./.gdbinit.save ./.gdbinit; fi; fi
+(cd oldXMenu; make maintainer-clean)
+rm -f libXMenu11.a Activate.o AddPane.o AddSel.o ChgPane.o ChgSel.o Create.o DelPane.o DelSel.o Destroy.o Error.o EvHand.o FindPane.o FindSel.o InsPane.o InsSel.o Internal.o Locate.o Post.o Recomp.o SetAEQ.o SetFrz.o SetPane.o SetSel.o XDelAssoc.o XLookAssoc.o XCrAssoc.o XDestAssoc.o XMakeAssoc.o insque.o
+rm -f Makefile
+(cd lwlib; make maintainer-clean)
+rm -f *.o core errs ,* *.a .emacs_* make.log MakeOut \#*
+rm -f Makefile
+rm -f TAGS
+(cd lib-src; make maintainer-clean)
+rm -f core *.o getopt.h getopt.h-t
+rm -f etags ctags emacsclient b2m ebrowse mac-fix-env profile digest-doc sorted-doc movemail cvtmail fakemail hexl update-game-score test-distrib make-docfile
+rm -f fns*.el *.tab.c *.tab.h
+rm -f TAGS
+rm -f Makefile Makefile.c blessmail
+true
+(cd doc/emacs && make maintainer-clean)
+rm -f *.log *.cp *.fn *.ky *.op *.ops *.pg *.vr core *.tp *.core
+rm -f *.aux *.cps *.fns *.kys *.pgs *.vrs *.toc
+rm -f *.dvi
+for file in ../../info/emacs; do rm -f ${file}*; done
+(cd doc/misc && make maintainer-clean)
+rm -f *.log *.cp *.fn *.ky *.op *.ops *.pg *.vr core *.tp \
+ *.tps *.core gnustmp.*
+rm -f *.aux *.cps *.fns *.kys *.pgs *.vrs *.toc
+rm -f *.dvi
+for file in ../../info/ada-mode ../../info/autotype ../../info/calc ../../info/ccmode ../../info/cl ../../info/dbus ../../info/dired-x ../../info/ebrowse ../../info/ediff ../../info/emacs-mime ../../info/epa ../../info/erc ../../info/eshell ../../info/eudc ../../info/efaq ../../info/flymake ../../info/forms ../../info/gnus ../../info/idlwave ../../info/info ../../info/mairix-el ../../info/message ../../info/mh-e ../../info/newsticker ../../info/nxml-mode ../../info/org ../../info/pcl-cvs ../../info/pgg ../../info/rcirc ../../info/remember ../../info/reftex ../../info/sasl ../../info/sc ../../info/ses ../../info/sieve ../../info/smtpmail ../../info/speedbar ../../info/tramp ../../info/url ../../info/vip ../../info/viper ../../info/widget ../../info/woman; do rm -f ${file}*; done
+(cd doc/lispref && make maintainer-clean)
+rm -f *.toc *.aux *.log *.cp *.cps *.fn *.fns *.tp *.tps \
+ *.vr *.vrs *.pg *.pgs *.ky *.kys
+rm -f make.out core
+rm -f elisp.dvi elisp.oaux
+cd ../../info; rm -f elisp elisp-[1-9] elisp-[1-9][0-9]
+(cd doc/lispintro && make maintainer-clean)
+rm -f *.log *.cp *.fn *.ky *.pg *.vr *.tp
+rm -f *.dvi
+rm -f *.aux *.cps *.fns *.kys *.pgs *.vrs *.toc
+cd ../../info; rm -f eintr eintr-[1-9]
+(cd leim; make maintainer-clean)
+rm -f quail/CCDOSPY.elc quail/Punct.elc quail/QJ.elc quail/SW.elc quail/TONEPY.elc quail/4Corner.elc quail/ARRAY30.elc quail/ECDICT.elc quail/ETZY.elc quail/Punct-b5.elc quail/PY-b5.elc quail/QJ-b5.elc quail/ZOZY.elc quail/tsang-b5.elc quail/quick-b5.elc quail/tsang-cns.elc quail/quick-cns.elc quail/PY.elc quail/ZIRANMA.elc quail/CTLau.elc quail/CTLau-b5.elc quail/CCDOSPY.el quail/Punct.el quail/QJ.el quail/SW.el quail/TONEPY.el quail/4Corner.el quail/ARRAY30.el quail/ECDICT.el quail/ETZY.el quail/Punct-b5.el quail/PY-b5.el quail/QJ-b5.el quail/ZOZY.el quail/tsang-b5.el quail/quick-b5.el quail/tsang-cns.el quail/quick-cns.el quail/PY.el quail/ZIRANMA.el quail/CTLau.el quail/CTLau-b5.el \
+ leim-list.el changed.tit changed.misc
+if test -f stamp-subdir; then rm -rf quail stamp-subdir; fi
+rm -f Makefile
+rm -f quail/CCDOSPY.elc quail/Punct.elc quail/QJ.elc quail/SW.elc quail/TONEPY.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/py-punct.elc quail/4Corner.elc quail/ARRAY30.elc quail/ECDICT.elc quail/ETZY.elc quail/Punct-b5.elc quail/PY-b5.elc quail/QJ-b5.elc quail/ZOZY.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/pypunct-b5.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/japanese.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/ja-dic/ja-dic.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/hangul.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/hanja.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/hanja3.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/hanja-jis.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/symbol-ksc.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/thai.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/viqr.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/vntelex.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/lao.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/lrt.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/indian.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/tibetan.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/latin-pre.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/latin-post.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/latin-alt.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/latin-ltx.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/welsh.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/czech.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/croatian.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/slovak.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/greek.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/cyrillic.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/cyril-jis.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/arabic.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/ethiopic.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/ipa.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/hebrew.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/georgian.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/sisheng.elc quail/tsang-b5.elc quail/quick-b5.elc quail/tsang-cns.elc quail/quick-cns.elc quail/PY.elc quail/ZIRANMA.elc quail/CTLau.elc quail/CTLau-b5.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/sgml-input.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/rfc1345.elc /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/quail/uni-input.elc
+(cd lisp; make bootstrap-clean)
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/lisp; rm -f *.elc */*.elc loaddefs.el /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/lisp/calendar/cal-loaddefs.el /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/lisp/calendar/diary-loaddefs.el /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/lisp/calendar/hol-loaddefs.el /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/lisp/mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el cus-load.el finder-inf.el subdirs.el calc/calc-loaddefs.el eshell/esh-groups.el
+rm -f config.cache config.log
+if [ -x ./config.status ]; then \
+ ./config.status; \
+ else \
+ ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode; \
+ fi
+config.status: creating Makefile
+config.status: creating lib-src/Makefile.c
+config.status: creating oldXMenu/Makefile
+config.status: creating doc/emacs/Makefile
+config.status: creating doc/misc/Makefile
+config.status: creating doc/lispintro/Makefile
+config.status: creating doc/lispref/Makefile
+config.status: creating src/Makefile.c
+config.status: creating lwlib/Makefile
+config.status: creating lisp/Makefile
+config.status: creating leim/Makefile
+config.status: creating src/config.h
+config.status: executing default commands
+creating src/epaths.h
+creating lib-src/Makefile
+creating src/Makefile
+make info all
+(cd doc/emacs; make info)
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/emacs; makeinfo --force emacs.texi
+(cd doc/misc; make info)
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force ada-mode.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force autotype.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force calc.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force cc-mode.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force cl.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force dbus.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force dired-x.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force ebrowse.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force ediff.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force --enable-encoding emacs-mime.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force epa.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force erc.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force eshell.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force eudc.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force faq.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force flymake.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force forms.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force gnus.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force --no-split idlwave.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force --no-split info.texi -o ../../info/info
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force mairix-el.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force message.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force mh-e.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force newsticker.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force nxml-mode.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force org.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force pcl-cvs.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force pgg.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force rcirc.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force remember.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force reftex.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force sasl.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force sc.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force ses.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force sieve.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force smtpmail.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force speedbar.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force -D emacs tramp.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force url.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force vip.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force viper.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force widget.texi
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force woman.texi
+(cd doc/lispref; make info)
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/lispref; makeinfo --force -I. -I../../info elisp.texi -o ../../info/elisp
+(cd doc/lispintro; make info)
+cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/lispintro; makeinfo emacs-lisp-intro.texi -o ../../info/eintr
boot=bootstrap-emacs; \
if [ -x "src/$boot" ]; then boot=""; fi; \
cd lib-src; make all \
CC='gcc -I/sw/include -L/sw/lib' CFLAGS='-g -O2 -Wno-pointer-sign ' CPPFLAGS='' \
LDFLAGS='' MAKE='make' BOOTSTRAPEMACS="$boot"
@@ -518,14 +645,14 @@
0x71b000 0x1d000 rw rwx
0x738000 0x1e000 rw rwx
0x756000 0x13000 rw rwx
0x769000 0x1000 r rw
0x76a000 0x1000 rw rwx
- 0x76b000 0x1000 rw rwx
0x76c000 0x5000 rw rwx
0x771000 0xa000 rw rwx
0x77b000 0x5000 rw rwx
+ 0x780000 0x1000 rw rwx
0x781000 0x1000 rw rwx
0x784000 0x4000 rw rwx
0x788000 0x4000 rw rwx
0x78c000 0x5000 rw rwx
0x791000 0x5000 rw rwx
@@ -553,12 +680,12 @@
0x429000 0x1000 rw rwx
0x42a000 0x1000 none rwx
0x42b000 0x1000 r rw
0x42c000 0x33d000 rw rwx
0x769000 0x1000 r rw
- 0x76a000 0x16000 rw rwx
- 0x781000 0x1000 rw rwx
+ 0x76a000 0x1000 rw rwx
+ 0x76c000 0x16000 rw rwx
0x784000 0x21000 rw rwx
0x7a7000 0x55000 rw rwx
0x800000 0xc00000 rw rwx
--- Header Information ---
Magic = 0xfeedface
@@ -2302,10 +2429,31 @@
else \
EMACSLOADPATH=/Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/../lisp LC_ALL=C ../src/emacs -batch --no-init-file --no-site-file --multibyte -l /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/../lisp/international/quail \
--eval "(update-leim-list-file \".\" \"/Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim\")" ; \
fi
sed -n '/^[^;]/ p' < /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/leim/leim-ext.el >> leim-list.el
+boot=bootstrap-emacs; \
+ if [ -x "src/$boot" ]; then boot=""; fi; \
+ cd lib-src; make all \
+ CC='gcc -I/sw/include -L/sw/lib' CFLAGS='-g -O2 -Wno-pointer-sign ' CPPFLAGS='' \
+ LDFLAGS='' MAKE='make' BOOTSTRAPEMACS="$boot"
+make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
+boot=bootstrap-emacs; \
+ if [ -x "src/$boot" ]; then boot=""; fi; \
+ cd src; make all \
+ CC='gcc -I/sw/include -L/sw/lib' CFLAGS='-g -O2 -Wno-pointer-sign ' CPPFLAGS='' \
+ LDFLAGS='' MAKE='make' BOOTSTRAPEMACS="$boot"
+make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
+boot=bootstrap-emacs; \
+ if [ -x "src/$boot" ]; then boot=""; fi; \
+ cd lisp; make all \
+ CC='gcc -I/sw/include -L/sw/lib' CFLAGS='-g -O2 -Wno-pointer-sign ' CPPFLAGS='' \
+ LDFLAGS='' MAKE='make' BOOTSTRAPEMACS="$boot"
+make compile-last EMACS=../src/emacs
+(export PARALLEL; PARALLEL=0; cd leim; make all \
+ CC='gcc -I/sw/include -L/sw/lib' CFLAGS='-g -O2 -Wno-pointer-sign ' CPPFLAGS='' \
+ LDFLAGS='' MAKE='make')
if [ -d /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/share ]; then true; else \
/Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/mkinstalldirs /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/share; \
chmod a+r /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/share;\
fi
mkdir /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/share
@@ -2348,59 +2496,17 @@
mkdir /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps
mkdir /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/share/icons/hicolor/scalable
mkdir /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps
mkdir /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/mimetypes
(cd doc/emacs; make info)
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/emacs; makeinfo --force emacs.texi
+make[2]: Nothing to be done for `info'.
(cd doc/misc; make info)
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force ada-mode.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force autotype.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force calc.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force cc-mode.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force cl.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force dbus.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force dired-x.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force ebrowse.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force ediff.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force --enable-encoding emacs-mime.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force epa.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force erc.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force eshell.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force eudc.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force faq.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force flymake.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force forms.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force gnus.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force --no-split idlwave.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force --no-split info.texi -o ../../info/info
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force mairix-el.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force message.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force mh-e.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force newsticker.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force nxml-mode.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force org.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force pcl-cvs.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force pgg.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force rcirc.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force remember.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force reftex.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force sasl.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force sc.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force ses.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force sieve.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force smtpmail.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force speedbar.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force -D emacs tramp.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force url.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force vip.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force viper.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force widget.texi
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/misc; makeinfo --force woman.texi
+make[2]: Nothing to be done for `info'.
(cd doc/lispref; make info)
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/lispref; makeinfo --force -I. -I../../info elisp.texi -o ../../info/elisp
+make[2]: Nothing to be done for `info'.
(cd doc/lispintro; make info)
-cd /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/doc/lispintro; makeinfo emacs-lisp-intro.texi -o ../../info/eintr
+make[2]: Nothing to be done for `info'.
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/etc/emacs.desktop \
/Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/share/applications/emacs.desktop
for icon in /Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/etc/images/icons/*/*/apps/*.* \
/Users/bsmith/w/emacs.git/etc/images/icons/*/*/mimetypes/*.*; do \
if [ -r ${icon} ]; then \
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: font handling broken in cvs emacs --with-ns (MacOS X)
2009-01-05 11:31 ` B Smith-Mannschott
@ 2009-01-05 14:04 ` Peter Dyballa
2009-01-06 13:28 ` B Smith-Mannschott
2009-01-06 12:34 ` B Smith-Mannschott
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Peter Dyballa @ 2009-01-05 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw
To: B Smith-Mannschott; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Am 05.01.2009 um 12:31 schrieb B Smith-Mannschott:
> In summary, you seem to be making two assertions:
>
> (1) running ( ./configure --with-ns ; make ; make install ) is not the
> same as running ( ./configure --with-ns ; make bootstrap ; make ;
> make install )
Actually I think ./configure ...; make bootstrap; (sudo) make install
is OK.
>
> Normally (on a Mac), one would expect the default font set through the
> *Application-Wide* Preferences window to be, well, an application-wide
> default and not per-frame setting. So really, this button in "Emacs
> Preferences" is just a really clumbsy way of executing "Options >> Set
> Default Font...". Is that sensible?
Probably. It's meant as a workaround. Besides, in GNU Emacs 23.0.60,
you can give every frame another font. And when you load a buffer
from frame A in frame B this window (prove it by creating a second
window in frame B) will habe frame A's font. Or fontset.
>
> (2.2) set-default-font
> Offers no completions for setting the default font.
>
> C-h f, however reveals that: This function is obsolete since 23.1; use
> set-frame-font instead. I had not previously noticed this. My bad.
>
> set-frame-font: Offers no completions. Is the user meant to guess?
Seems to be a sign of missing adaptation to Cocoa. I don't use this,
I prefer the font panel. You can report it as a bug.
>
> (2.3) M-x set-face-font
> Offers only three possible completions, just as described in the
> initial posting on this thread.
>
> -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-default
> -apple-Monaco-medium-normal-normal-Regular-*-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-
> startup
> -ns-*-*-*-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-standard
These are the built-in defaults. Again, there is a link missing to
Cocoa. You can report it as the same bug.
--
Greetings
Pete
Increase the size of your bike by at least *five* inches!
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: font handling broken in cvs emacs --with-ns (MacOS X)
2009-01-05 11:31 ` B Smith-Mannschott
2009-01-05 14:04 ` Peter Dyballa
@ 2009-01-06 12:34 ` B Smith-Mannschott
2009-01-06 16:03 ` Peter Dyballa
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: B Smith-Mannschott @ 2009-01-06 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@web.de> wrote:
>
> Am 04.01.2009 um 19:28 schrieb B Smith-Mannschott:
>
...
>> ***** Fourth attempt: Via context menu
>>
>> On the X11 version of emacs built from *the very same source*
>> S-mouse-1 pops up a menu "Change Default Buffer Face". I tried this on
>> my --with-ns build of emacs. No such menu is displayed.
>
> Yes, this looks like a bug!
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:31 PM, B Smith-Mannschott
<bsmith.occs@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@web.de> wrote:
...
> (2.4) Context menu (S-mouse-1)
> Menu still missing. This has already been identified as a bug.
This is not, in fact, a bug. It's a feature. It turns out that
S-mouse-1 extends the current selection, which is the usual convention
on Mac OS X. This is also documented:
<S-Mouse-1> (i.e., clicking the left mouse button while holding down
the <Shift> key) adjusts the region to the click position, just like
<Mouse-3> (`mouse-save-then-kill'); it does not pop up a menu for
changing the default face, as <S-Mouse-1> normally does (*note
Temporary Face Changes::). This change makes Emacs behave more like
other Mac / GNUstep applications. ((--Mac / GNUStep Basics))
(silly me)
// Ben Smith-Mannschott
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* Re: font handling broken in cvs emacs --with-ns (MacOS X)
2009-01-05 14:04 ` Peter Dyballa
@ 2009-01-06 13:28 ` B Smith-Mannschott
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From: B Smith-Mannschott @ 2009-01-06 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
bugs filed:
http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1801
http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1802
http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1803
http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1804
Thanks for the feedback.
// Ben Smith-Mannschott
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* Re: font handling broken in cvs emacs --with-ns (MacOS X)
2009-01-06 12:34 ` B Smith-Mannschott
@ 2009-01-06 16:03 ` Peter Dyballa
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From: Peter Dyballa @ 2009-01-06 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw
To: B Smith-Mannschott; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Am 06.01.2009 um 13:34 schrieb B Smith-Mannschott:
> This is not, in fact, a bug. It's a feature. It turns out that
> S-mouse-1 extends the current selection, which is the usual convention
> on Mac OS X.
I wonder whether I could learn this! I am so good in separating Emacs
and Mac OS X ...
BTW, I remember that earlier versions of Emacs.app offered Cmd-T to
bring up the font panel – and it still does! Although not advertised
in the Options menu ...
--
Greetings
Pete
Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.
– Elbert Hubbard
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