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Thu, 16 Nov 2023 21:47:43 -0500 (EST) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <jwvleaxhzpp.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.111.4.29; envelope-from=dmitry@gutov.dev; helo=out5-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -49 X-Spam_score: -5.0 X-Spam_bar: ----- X-Spam_report: (-5.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-2.193, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-devel@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312843 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/312843> On 17/11/2023 04:44, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> But cl-defmethod with just one method resulting in a simple function >> definition in an experimental fact (evaluate (cl-defmethod abc () 345); >> then (cl-defmethod abc () 345) returns (lambda nil (progn 345))), so that >> must be faster, without any computation of applicable methods. > "one method" is necessary but not sufficient for this optimization. > This one method has to have no specializer (aka only the `t` specializer). > >> The comment above the code you quoted mentions "generic functions with >> a single method"; maybe it was written before the above optimization >> was made. > No, that comment refers to the case where there's a single method but > with a non-t specializer, so we can't just always call that one method > without first testing that the arg matches the specializer. Makes sense. Thanks!