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From: Alexander Shukaev <emacs@alexander.shukaev.name>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Hangs on Filesystem Operations on Stale NFS
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 13:05:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <288488e642ec1f2ea0d1d15ab5dfe43b@alexander.shukaev.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mvmtvq9h9id.fsf@suse.de>

On 2018-06-11 13:01, Andreas Schwab wrote:
> On Jun 11 2018, Alexander Shukaev <emacs@alexander.shukaev.name> wrote:
> 
>> I initiated a discussion back in 2015 [1] about fragility of Emacs in
>> terms of filesystem operations on stale NFS.  No solution actually 
>> came
>> out of this discussion.  I still find this issue very disruptive.  Yet
>> another example would be `recentf-cleanup' which is in my case 
>> triggered
>> on Emacs start up, when the file comes from stale NFS, the 
>> corresponding
>> `file-readable-p' down the stack will hang indefinitely, and there 
>> would
>> be no way to unfreeze it apart from issuing 'kill -9' to that Emacs
>> instance.  Don't you people find it unacceptable for the daily usage?
> 
> How is that a bug in Emacs if you have stale NFS mounts?
> 
> Andreas.

I didn't find a word "bug" in that quote.  I'd rather call it a 
robustness enhancement.  By the way, I guess you just don't realize how 
easy it is to run into that situation on daily basis.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-11 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-11 10:27 Emacs Hangs on Filesystem Operations on Stale NFS Alexander Shukaev
2018-06-11 11:01 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-06-11 11:05   ` Alexander Shukaev [this message]
2018-06-11 11:50     ` Andreas Schwab
2018-06-11 12:03       ` Alexander Shukaev
2018-06-11 11:55 ` Alexander Shukaev
2018-06-11 11:59 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-11 12:11   ` Alexander Shukaev
2018-06-11 12:20     ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-11 12:22       ` Alexander Shukaev
2018-06-11 12:34         ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-11 12:41           ` Alexander Shukaev
2018-06-11 12:40     ` Andreas Schwab
2018-06-11 12:46       ` Alexander Shukaev
2018-06-11 15:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-13 15:40           ` Paul Eggert
2018-06-12 17:26     ` Davis Herring
2018-06-12 18:26       ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-11 15:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-11 16:46   ` Mike Kupfer
2018-06-11 17:08     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-13 10:45 ` Alexander Shukaev
2018-06-13 12:35   ` Yuri Khan
2018-06-13 14:23     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-13 15:30       ` Yuri Khan
2018-06-13 18:09       ` Michael Albinus

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