From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger?= Sonderfeld Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: some feedback on package.el changes Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 12:11:43 +0200 Message-ID: <28589609.BaTDc9GTni@descartes> References: <87ppj6rhyo.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1400753537 27446 80.91.229.3 (22 May 2014 10:12:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 10:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , Nic Ferrier To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 22 12:12:10 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WnPyr-0000Qj-3o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 May 2014 12:12:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36170 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WnPyq-0006yh-Eq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 May 2014 06:12:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60272) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WnPyh-0006xe-RE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 May 2014 06:12:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WnPyb-0007Cy-B4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 May 2014 06:11:59 -0400 Original-Received: from ptmx.org ([178.63.28.110]:49812) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WnPyb-00079y-4b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 May 2014 06:11:53 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptmx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79A72B33E; Thu, 22 May 2014 12:11:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ptmx.org Original-Received: from ptmx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ptmx.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vKEzIlhuHHZh; Thu, 22 May 2014 12:11:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from descartes.localnet (chello080108246092.7.14.vie.surfer.at [80.108.246.92]) by ptmx.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1F1ED2B16D; Thu, 22 May 2014 12:11:47 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: KMail/4.13 (Linux/3.13.0-24-generic; KDE/4.13.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 178.63.28.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:172020 Archived-At: On Wednesday 21 May 2014 17:00:42 Stefan Monnier wrote: > There was no API (package.el was only meant to provide a UI). > As an API it was fundamentally broken (and probably is to some extent= ), > so there was no way to fix the API without breaking compatibility (an= d > compatibility will probably need to be broken again when the remainin= g > problems get fixed). It might not have been intended as an API but there are several project= s using=20 it. E.g., el-get got broken several times due to the package.el change= s as=20 well: https://github.com/dimitri/el-get/pull/1756 Regards, R=C3=BCdiger