From: Mike Kupfer <kupfer@rawbw.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, 68687@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org,
stefankangas@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
manikulin@gmail.com
Subject: bug#68687: Org mode code evaluation (was: bug#68687: [PATCH] Use text/org media type)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2024 09:12:49 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <28314.1706634769@alto> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mssn81dw.fsf@localhost>
Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> Max is referring to various security issues with evaluating code inside
> Org mode buffers. They are known, but not relevant to Org text being
> displayed in email MUA - Org never evaluates any code automatically
> without user explicitly asking for it. And in MUA, Org mode is simply
> used to apply faces. No other interaction with the displayed text/org
> mime part is allowed.
I can believe that Org text snippets are safe in an email MUA.
But in the general case, I don't think Org mode is quite as safe as you
implied. The last I heard, conversion from Org mode to another format
(e.g., plain text or HTML) can result in code evaluation, without the
user authorizing it (see
https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=48676). I would not
expect random users to understand that format conversion is a
potentially risky operation.
mike
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mike Kupfer <kupfer@rawbw.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, 68687@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, manikulin@gmail.com,
stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: Org mode code evaluation (was: bug#68687: [PATCH] Use text/org media type)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2024 09:12:49 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <28314.1706634769@alto> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mssn81dw.fsf@localhost>
Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> Max is referring to various security issues with evaluating code inside
> Org mode buffers. They are known, but not relevant to Org text being
> displayed in email MUA - Org never evaluates any code automatically
> without user explicitly asking for it. And in MUA, Org mode is simply
> used to apply faces. No other interaction with the displayed text/org
> mime part is allowed.
I can believe that Org text snippets are safe in an email MUA.
But in the general case, I don't think Org mode is quite as safe as you
implied. The last I heard, conversion from Org mode to another format
(e.g., plain text or HTML) can result in code evaluation, without the
user authorizing it (see
https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=48676). I would not
expect random users to understand that format conversion is a
potentially risky operation.
mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-30 17:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-21 13:56 Org mode MIME type Max Nikulin
2024-01-21 15:11 ` Timothy
2024-01-22 16:21 ` Max Nikulin
2024-01-24 14:43 ` bug#68687: [PATCH] Use text/org media type Max Nikulin
2024-01-25 23:10 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-25 23:10 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-25 23:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-26 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-26 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-26 14:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-26 14:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-26 10:52 ` Max Nikulin
2024-01-30 19:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-30 20:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-30 20:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-30 19:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-25 23:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-26 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-26 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-26 10:39 ` Max Nikulin
2024-01-26 12:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-31 16:30 ` Max Nikulin
2024-01-31 16:30 ` Max Nikulin
2024-01-27 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-27 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-28 16:35 ` Max Nikulin
2024-01-28 16:35 ` Max Nikulin
2024-01-28 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-30 3:56 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-30 12:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-30 12:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-30 17:12 ` Mike Kupfer [this message]
2024-01-30 17:12 ` Org mode code evaluation (was: bug#68687: [PATCH] Use text/org media type) Mike Kupfer
2024-01-30 17:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-02 3:38 ` bug#68687: " Richard Stallman
2024-02-02 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-02 4:58 ` bug#68687: Org mode code evaluation Max Nikulin
2024-02-02 4:58 ` Max Nikulin
2024-02-02 16:10 ` bug#68687: Org mode code evaluation (was: bug#68687: [PATCH] Use text/org media type) Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-30 17:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-31 16:18 ` bug#68687: [PATCH] Use text/org media type Max Nikulin
2024-01-31 16:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-31 16:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-31 16:18 ` Max Nikulin
2024-02-02 3:40 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-02 3:40 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-02 7:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 7:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-30 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-30 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-30 3:56 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-28 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-31 20:00 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-31 20:00 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-02-01 10:40 ` Max Nikulin
2024-02-01 10:40 ` Max Nikulin
2024-02-02 7:09 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-02-02 7:09 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-02-02 16:28 ` bug#68687: [PATCH v2] " Max Nikulin
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