From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Francis Wright" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3319: 23.0.93; Default font Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 18:02:33 +0100 Organization: Maths, Queen Mary, University of London Message-ID: <28266.0964680419$1242840594@news.gmane.org> References: <001801c9d71a$8bade240$a309a6c0$@J.Wright@qmul.ac.uk> <4A1227C1.2010503@gnu.org> Reply-To: Francis Wright , 3319@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242840594 12048 80.91.229.12 (20 May 2009 17:29:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 17:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3319@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: "'Stefan Monnier'" , "'Kenichi Handa'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 20 19:29:46 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M6pbr-0006Rb-M2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:29:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42276 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M6pbr-0005xl-4G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 13:29:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M6pKp-0007FJ-HM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 13:12:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M6pKk-0007E2-1O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 13:12:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48188 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M6pKj-0007Do-NE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 13:12:01 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:40503) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M6pKi-0000o8-VH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 13:12:01 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4KHBvOf004021; Wed, 20 May 2009 10:11:57 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n4KHA8xF002906; Wed, 20 May 2009 10:10:08 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Francis Wright" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 17:10:08 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3319 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3319-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3319.124283896432494 (code B ref 3319); Wed, 20 May 2009 17:10:08 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3319) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 20 May 2009 17:02:44 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mail2.qmul.ac.uk (mail2.qmul.ac.uk [138.37.6.6]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4KH2c1g032477 for <3319@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 20 May 2009 10:02:39 -0700 Original-Received: from smtp.qmul.ac.uk ([138.37.6.40]) by mail2.qmul.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1M6pBZ-00010Y-1V; Wed, 20 May 2009 18:02:37 +0100 Original-Received: from centaur.maths.qmul.ac.uk ([138.37.80.58] helo=Centaur) by smtp.qmul.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M6pBY-0003ZK-UA; Wed, 20 May 2009 18:02:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcnY8Oc8NcGfSJi1T8GAIv5wuDAgpQAeyZ8g Content-Language: en-gb X-Sender-Host-Address: 138.37.80.58 X-QM-SPAM-Info: Sender has good ham record. :) X-QM-Body-MD5: e385c1b5e255c7ba0af40cfd846a5d79 (of first 20000 bytes) X-QM-Scan-Virus: ClamAV says the message is clean X-QM-Scan-Virus: virusscan says the message is clean X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:12:06 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:28050 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier [mailto:monnier@iro.umontreal.ca] > Sent: Wednesday 20 May 2009 3:17 am > To: Kenichi Handa > Cc: jasonr@gnu.org; 3319@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; > F.J.Wright@qmul.ac.uk > Subject: Re: bug#3319: 23.0.93; Default font > > >> Breaking backward compatibility might be OK, but I still wonder: how > >> come we ended up with "Sanvito Pro Subhead" from a spec of > >> a non-existing "outline-lucida sans typewriter"? > > > When there's no font of the specified family, Emacs tries to > > find a font without specifing family. In that case, which > > family is selected is just arbitrary. > > Shouldn't we fallback on the default font families > (Sans/Courier/...) instead? I think that would be much better. A known useable font would be better than something arbitrary, which could presumably be some kind of symbol font. Incidentally, Emacs 22 doesn't offer me Sanvito or the Adobe fonts, whereas Emacs 23 does.