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From: "Clément Pit--Claudel" <clement.pit@gmail.com>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Elpa: Pinpoint semantics of `seq-subseq' for streams
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 21:24:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27962aa1-ae40-99f8-64ad-ae21012fb36e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8737l3a4ab.fsf@web.de>


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Hi Michael,

On 2016-09-13 17:17, Michael Heerdegen wrote:
> Yes, I want to forbid them, unless there are realistic use cases.
> No, we don't have something like `tail' for streams.  If you want
> something like that, you are in general better done with lists (i.e.
> convert the stream into a list), I think.

I don't think converting to list would be a good idea.  When operating on text files, for example, it's often convenient to get the last n lines of a file.  If the file is represented as a stream of lines, then tail makes sense.  Doesn't it?  Converting the file to a list of lines beforehand sounds like a bad idea, memory wise.

> Streams are a mean to program in a certain way (called data flow
> control or something like that).  Negative indexes for `seq-subseq'
> collide with this model.

I don't see why; isn't it common to implement slyding-window-style algorithms on data streams? 'tail' is just one such example.  

I do agree, however, that the return value of these silding-window algorithms is not commonly a stream (rather a list, or a function of that list).  But I'm not sure that this is enough to make subseq with negative arguments irrelevant. Otherwise, what's a point of subseq vs. e.g. drop + take?

Let me know what you think of the 'last n lines of a file' example.  Maybe I'm missing something :)

Cheers,
Clément.


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-14  1:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-13 16:23 [PATCH] Elpa: Pinpoint semantics of `seq-subseq' for streams Michael Heerdegen
2016-09-13 18:02 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-13 21:17   ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-09-14  1:24     ` Clément Pit--Claudel [this message]
2016-09-14 15:05       ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-09-14 23:26         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-15  0:51           ` John Mastro
2016-09-15  2:00             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-15 17:01               ` John Mastro
2016-09-15 21:07               ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-09-15 22:18                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-15 22:28                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-09-15 22:52                     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-15  0:58           ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-09-15  3:47             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-15  8:42               ` Nicolas Petton
2016-09-15 22:30                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-09-15 23:08                   ` Nicolas Petton
2016-09-15 21:29               ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-09-14  1:28     ` John Wiegley
2016-09-14 15:15       ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-09-13 22:20 ` Nicolas Petton
2016-09-13 22:40   ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-09-14  8:25     ` Nicolas Petton

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