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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200394 Archived-At: On Feb 21, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 >> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 00:58:37 +0800 >> From: Elias M=C3=A5rtenson >> Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel = >>=20 >> Now, other languages may use the character (in the Unicode sense) =C3=B6= as a variation of o. In other words, o >> with =C2=A8 on top of it. For users of such languages =C3=B6 is just = a variation of o as we also have discussed before. On >> the other hand, =C3=B8 is not used as a variation of o in any = language that I am aware of. >=20 > I don't think this is correct. I think =C3=B6 is a letter on its own = in > any language that uses it. Which is why I don't see how it is > different from =C3=B8. Well, the New Yorker writes co=C3=B6perate [1], though it=E2=80=99s = definitely an o. That said, I don=E2=80=99t think we should worry = overly about that case, since we Americans will want o to match them = all. :-) -Ivan [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)#English=