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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Clément Pit--Claudel" <clement.pit@gmail.com>,
	"Nils Berg" <nilsb@google.com>,
	24379@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24379: [PATCH] lisp/bindings.el: Bind (yank-pop -1) to M-Y
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 08:58:44 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2685aa54-ed6f-40c5-848e-de2529c41582@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <35566841-27d9-670e-0a77-d83563d8b35b@gmail.com>

> > Users can always override any key bindings, of course.
> > But many users are hesitant to override default bindings,
> > for whatever reasons.
...
> > Yes, and my `M-y' is only turned on in Icicle minor mode (but
> > which I am always in).  You can drop that example, if you like,
> > and just google for `emacs "M-y"' if you would like to see what
> > other users do with `M-y'.
> 
> I'm having trouble reconciling these two statements: on the one hand
> people don't like overriding existing bindings, but on the other hand
> many people override the existing M-y binding?

Maybe you're having trouble because you're trying too hard to
argue. ;-)

Many users do override default bindings.  And many do not.

In any case, the proposal was about `M-Y', which is not bound
by default.

> > My point was the _general_ one that I stated: (1) Many users
> > have their own uses of `M-y' and `C-M-y'.  And (2) adding this
> > particular binding is not helpful - it is trivial for anyone
> > to add it, if they really want it.
> 
> I don't understand. All bindings are trivial to add. That doesn't make any
> of them less helpful.

It's a trivial command, which is not hard for a user to discover
or consider binding.  And as you yourself pointed out, `M-- M-y'
does the same thing.

You're trying too hard to pick a fight, I'm afraid.

Do _you_ think `M-Y' should be bound by default to the suggested
command?  If so, please present some supporting arguments.





  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-06 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-06 13:28 bug#24379: [PATCH] lisp/bindings.el: Bind (yank-pop -1) to M-Y Nils Berg
2016-09-06 14:33 ` Drew Adams
2016-09-06 15:15   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-06 15:36     ` Drew Adams
2016-09-06 15:42       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-06 15:58         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-09-14  9:42           ` Nils Berg
2016-09-06 15:13 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2019-06-25 11:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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