From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Phil Sainty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Enhance the use of prefix arguments when filling text Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 23:21:33 +1300 Message-ID: <2681ce97-190e-bc24-21cf-437734ec3731@orcon.net.nz> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1479032562 29814 195.159.176.226 (13 Nov 2016 10:22:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 10:22:42 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 To: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 13 11:22:37 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c5rv6-0001HW-Bn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 11:21:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33100 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c5rv9-0003kN-9n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:21:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47475) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c5rv3-0003fv-1a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:21:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c5ruy-0000ip-4u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:21:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [219.88.242.22] (port=52557 helo=mail.orcon.net.nz) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c5rux-0000hJ-LG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:21:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.20.100] ([150.107.172.177]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.orcon.net.nz (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id uADALXkV005156 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 23:21:34 +1300 In-Reply-To: X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0: No Bayes scoring rules defined, tokens from: outbound) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=150.107.172.177; country=NZ; region=Bay of Plenty Region; city=Tauranga; latitude=-37.6686; longitude=176.2664; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=-37.6686,176.2664&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: base:outbound X-Canit-Stats-ID: 01S7mlyPv - 8b991cb0bf73 - 20161113 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail.orcon.net.nz id uADALXkV005156 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 219.88.242.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209366 Archived-At: On 13/11/16 06:21, Herring, Davis wrote: >> In all cases a plain C-u still means (only) JUSTIFY. >=20 > This seems sufficient (and sufficiently obvious) to > avoid having to have the user option at all. (But maybe > someone (on QWERTY) is using M-1 M-q to justify?) Yes, that's the reason for the new user option -- I want to ensure that people can retain the behaviour they're used to. Personally I never need to justify text; but if there are people who do so very regularly, it's entirely possible that they're using the M- style of numeric prefix, simply because it's slightly easier to type that then to have to switch modifier keys after typing C-u. Furthermore, (info "(emacs) Fill Commands") currently says: "A numeric argument to =91M-q=92 tells it to "justify" the text as well as filling it" -- the "numeric" detail is really unnecessary, but it did give me even more reason to ensure that this behaviour could be retained. -Phil