From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Cecilio Pardo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Physical keyboard events Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 22:45:00 +0100 Message-ID: <265daf18-ccdf-4c6c-ab04-1d3312cbcbb2@imayhem.com> References: <3b505bfa-cff2-4e1e-adf0-39467f3eb474@imayhem.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20841"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 29 22:46:13 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t5u2X-0005Kk-4g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 29 Oct 2024 22:46:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5u1Z-0002fl-Ja; Tue, 29 Oct 2024 17:45:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5u1X-0002fL-JU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Oct 2024 17:45:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.imayhem.com ([82.223.54.191] helo=zealous-pike.82-223-54-191.plesk.page) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5u1U-0001os-ON for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Oct 2024 17:45:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.68.104] (111.red-88-21-7.staticip.rima-tde.net [88.21.7.111]) by zealous-pike.82-223-54-191.plesk.page (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8A3F3800D2; Tue, 29 Oct 2024 21:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: zealous-pike.82-223-54-191.plesk.page; spf=pass (sender IP is 88.21.7.111) smtp.mailfrom=cpardo@imayhem.com smtp.helo=[192.168.68.104] Received-SPF: pass (zealous-pike.82-223-54-191.plesk.page: connection is authenticated) Content-Language: es-ES In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=82.223.54.191; envelope-from=cpardo@imayhem.com; helo=zealous-pike.82-223-54-191.plesk.page X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:324933 Archived-At: On 29/10/2024 20:31, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> The way I hope to implement it, there will be no interference if you >> don't activate it. Many editors such as VSCode and the ones from >> JetBrains use this, and people appreciate it. > > Somebody not activating it will not have access to the commands which > other people assign to these new key combinations. That could be a > problem. This bindings would be reserved for the user, not for packages default bindings. Of course, we can't control what packages do. >> I was planning for GUI systems alone. > > That's a very un-Emacs like thing to do. Apart from specifically > graphicky things, the convention is that features are available > regardless of whether on a GUI or a TUI. For this reason, bindings like > C- are frowned upon, although they are used in some places (hello, > Org!). It is practically imposible to do it on ttys, I think. I wish I could implement this in lisp, or as a module, but that is not possible. Can only be implemented modifying emacs core. This is almost a toy thing, so I'll leave it as there is disagreement. Thanks for your time.