From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40915: [PATCH] Make leaving Info-summary more intuitive Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 10:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <25e557d9-4b68-470a-96d5-c51552d5fa38@default> References: <83sggo2ik3.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="12415"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 40915@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 28 19:14:15 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jTToE-00036H-Q9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:11:28 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 30my0dr9p6-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:11:28 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 03SHBQer021075; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:11:27 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4993.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9605 signatures=668686 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 adultscore=0 mlxlogscore=915 bulkscore=0 phishscore=0 mlxscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2003020000 definitions=main-2004280134 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9605 signatures=668686 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 clxscore=1011 priorityscore=1501 mlxlogscore=964 impostorscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2003020000 definitions=main-2004280136 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:179226 Archived-At: > In other words, doing one of: >=20 > (a) make 'Info-summary' into a general help command and use it in more > places, or > (b) deprecate 'Info-summary' in favour of 'describe-mode'. >=20 > It seems to me that _if_ we think the 'Info-summary' behaviour is > useful, we would want to ensure more modes can benefit from it. Or, > to put it another way, I don't see why it would be uniquely useful to > Info-mode -- it should be useful either in many more modes or nowhere. > I haven't formed a strong opinion on this, but it would be interesting > to hear what people think. I don't really understand. Info-summary is a help command that describes Info. You can invoke it anywhere - not just in Info, so I don't see why it would be deprecated and its content given to describe-mode. For (a), what do you mean by a "general" help command? The point of Info-summary is to provide succinct help about Info.