From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 12:28:29 +0000 Message-ID: <25d8d72022961fdeb552@heytings.org> References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <831r59kyhf.fsf@gnu.org> <834ka4k15m.fsf@gnu.org> <83y27gijmz.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32992"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Alan Mackenzie , Eli Zaretskii , joaotavora@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Phil Sainty Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 30 14:29:34 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mVvBs-0008SN-Lv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 14:29:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51546 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVvBr-0003FE-O7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:29:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48522) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVvAw-0002VJ-HK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:28:34 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:58304) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVvAu-0001Hi-Ho; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:28:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1633004910; bh=UCUH5TSb1YJumdI7V4ocuzpaXmYjLQVZG0gPCaThyDc=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=w0zjSocbL+0n9zDr0K3jnhEw6yLAoNUy+sK+CWJAD6rVOgsbfQ9FGujKrNUxdBmtO KEUkXBM+bJjCRzhErtd6+Q7Xq5Nh0tbWl786RzXkERkaHlUdj+5ij3tmZbjULeSwyv kZhRmP3dA4bU0h6xHBVBfqKNK39NP/3JFAwHEaK00YFtK5KDfHjztfwgu9bJL0l3TX b1Ck7U2Y04RgvXPrgboevTPXlVW5Q7TGnzIEupOxFRyM7xZRy75KCtNoE5C2FwhjbL SzSmcraKYmHS1mcpp0KARUEeN5wfS4HPmSyNBuIIJFVlWdMhMcWOxdaFT+NKT/ubdK QQXRcXJi5tOlg== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275880 Archived-At: > > Instead, we would need two things: > > 1. A way of displaying long symbols in the desired short form, such that > the buffer contains the actual symbol, but the user sees the short > symbol (i.e. some kind of replacing display). > > 2. Something analogous to abbrev which recognises when someone starts > typing a symbol with one of the configured short prefixes, and expands > it to be the full name (but per (1) visually displayed as the short form > that they typed). > Not that this already exists (and has existed for years), it's the "nameless.el" library.