From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 12:29:20 +0000 Message-ID: <25d8d72022023506ae82@heytings.org> References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <831r59kyhf.fsf@gnu.org> <834ka4k15m.fsf@gnu.org> <83y27gijmz.fsf@gnu.org> <25d8d72022961fdeb552@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6217"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Alan Mackenzie , Eli Zaretskii , joaotavora@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Phil Sainty Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 30 14:32:12 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mVvER-0001PU-GW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 14:32:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53730 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVvEQ-0004wa-GV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:32:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48772) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVvBk-0003Nq-Bn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:29:24 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:58318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVvBi-0001zD-W8; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:29:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1633004961; bh=baJxG3jBAFdCsb7S2Deei4Reorefp+A1LKb4u07wueY=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=DgH1h+QTR1uYIpdBWtiCU/z2ck3cDK7NIUDaiH6hA0qylnTV0+djdTioHK/t5C6pG GFhnq8fVzSMewLt8FKG8Oej1NgCgjKlHhs1OPvUx+d1drCCmkM8c+8uHZ+aU0vWHBB Q17CjzE/PSdpAoCheTkP+4M/OXTO06yT+jG63nywz0C4lj5seNQ41caFsqqb/9x2fl H8DxYBZ1VE1H1JiehJV4cCqZFAaBltNJDvfFtre1zOoSxOAhdX1Wy02SW4I/AWkvnj NvH0haimk2gD2QT01AsRMg2GgHUGnqasMO+wIjMOosCO4Zm69Bgct5qU/OxvEEjv4p gkJQKic5jgk2Q== In-Reply-To: <25d8d72022961fdeb552@heytings.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275881 Archived-At: >> Instead, we would need two things: >> >> 1. A way of displaying long symbols in the desired short form, such >> that the buffer contains the actual symbol, but the user sees the short >> symbol (i.e. some kind of replacing display). >> >> 2. Something analogous to abbrev which recognises when someone starts >> typing a symbol with one of the configured short prefixes, and expands >> it to be the full name (but per (1) visually displayed as the short >> form that they typed). > > Not that this already exists (and has existed for years), it's the > "nameless.el" library. > s/Not/Note/