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From: Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net>
Cc: 69942@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#69942: 30.0.50; Fontification of radio-button widget labels
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 18:05:30 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <259fef2b-e0bf-46c4-8b42-5e26f906accb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <864jcy1dt3.fsf@gnu.org>

Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net> writes:

 > In bug#69941 I reported a faulty fontification of radio-button widgets
 > and noted in passing that the labels associated with the radio buttons
 > also have unexpected faces, namely, the widget-inactive face regardless
 > of whether the associated radio buttons are inactive or active (except
 > for the label of a radio button that has been pressed, which has the
 > default face).  While the faulty fontification discussed in bug#69941
 > appears to be a real bug, the widget-inactive face assigned to
 > radio-button labels is apparently by design -- it was present in the
 > initial commit of the widget library.  But this seems to me to have been
 > a UX mistake, since it effectively ignores the semantics implied by the
 > name widget-inactive.  I think a less surprising UI would be for the
 > labels to be fontified according to the widget's activation state:
 > default face when the widget is active and widget-inactive face when
 > it's inactive.  The attached patches provide two possible
 > implementations of this UI.
 >
 > The first patch makes the change unconditionally, treating the current
 > fontification as a UI/UX bug.  But it may be argued that this aspect of
 > the widget UI should not be unconditionally changed, since it was
 > apparently a deliberate design choice and there have been (AFAIK) no
 > complaints about the semantic discrepancy till now.  The lack of
 > complaint could be because the widget-inactive face inherits the shadow
 > face, so it is not sharply different from the default face. But if one
 > uses a very different face (as I did for illustrative purposes in
 > bug#69941), the inconsistency is very obvious and (IMO) jarring.
 > Nevertheless, to allow keeping the current fontification, the second
 > patch conditionalizes the change from the current fontification by means
 > of a user option (with the default being the current fontification).
 >
 > Is either of these changes acceptable?

Thanks for working on this.  What about adding a widget-unselected face?
I think that might be the intention with using the widget-inactive face
for unselected radio items.






  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-23 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-22 15:04 bug#69942: 30.0.50; Fontification of radio-button widget labels Stephen Berman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-22 15:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-23 21:05   ` Mauro Aranda [this message]
2024-03-24 18:47     ` Stephen Berman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-25  0:40       ` Stephen Berman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-01 15:21         ` Stephen Berman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-06  9:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-08 10:58             ` Mauro Aranda
2024-04-08 11:15               ` Stephen Berman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-08 12:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-18  9:23               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-18 10:07                 ` Mauro Aranda
2024-04-18 13:37                   ` Stephen Berman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-21 19:45                     ` Stephen Berman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-26 12:47                       ` Stephen Berman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-09  7:22                         ` Eli Zaretskii

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