emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Leo]

Hi there,

Emacs from: http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/

The executable emacs.exe is larger than 32 Mb.

http://ourcomments.org/cgi-bin/emacsw32-dl-latest.pl suffers the same
problem.

Can this be made smaller?  I have seen other people provided a much
smaller executable (~8.7M). For example:

http://code.google.com/p/emacs-for-windows/

Best wishes,
-- 
.:  Leo  :.  [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ]  .: I use Emacs :.

Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:44:12 +0000
> 
> Emacs from: http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/
> 
> The executable emacs.exe is larger than 32 Mb.
> 
> http://ourcomments.org/cgi-bin/emacsw32-dl-latest.pl suffers the same
> problem.
> 
> Can this be made smaller?

Does it help to say "strip emacs.exe"?

Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Leo]

On 2009-02-27 18:12 +0000, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:44:12 +0000
>> 
>
>> Emacs from: http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/
>> 
>> The executable emacs.exe is larger than 32 Mb.
>> 
>> http://ourcomments.org/cgi-bin/emacsw32-dl-latest.pl suffers the same
>> problem.
>> 
>> Can this be made smaller?
>
> Does it help to say "strip emacs.exe"?

After doing this, it becomes invalid w32 program.

I used to do this when I compiled emacs on GNU/Linux.

-- 
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Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Sebastian Rose]

Try:

strip.exe -d --strip-unneeded   emacs.exe



Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> writes:
> On 2009-02-27 18:12 +0000, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>> From: Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:44:12 +0000
>>> 
>>
>>> Emacs from: http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/
>>> 
>>> The executable emacs.exe is larger than 32 Mb.
>>> 
>>> http://ourcomments.org/cgi-bin/emacsw32-dl-latest.pl suffers the same
>>> problem.
>>> 
>>> Can this be made smaller?
>>
>> Does it help to say "strip emacs.exe"?
>
> After doing this, it becomes invalid w32 program.
>
> I used to do this when I compiled emacs on GNU/Linux.

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Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Leo]

On 2009-02-27 20:00 +0000, Sebastian Rose wrote:
> Try:
>
> strip.exe -d --strip-unneeded   emacs.exe

Same error:

 "emacs.exe is not a valid win32 application."


By the way, I use binutils from: http://www.mingw.org/.

-- 
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Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Sebastian Rose]

Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> writes:
> On 2009-02-27 20:00 +0000, Sebastian Rose wrote:
>> Try:
>>
>> strip.exe -d --strip-unneeded   emacs.exe
>
> Same error:
>
>  "emacs.exe is not a valid win32 application."


Hm - this worked for me when I compiled on windows the last time. It's
more than a year ago actually.


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Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:40:35 +0000
> 
> > Does it help to say "strip emacs.exe"?
> 
> After doing this, it becomes invalid w32 program.

That probably means your `strip' command is incompatible with the
development tools used to build emacs.exe.  Is `strip' a Cygwin port,
by chance?  You need `strip.exe' from the MinGW Binutils, not from
Cygwin.

Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Juanma Barranquero]

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 22:34, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> That probably means your `strip' command is incompatible with the
> development tools used to build emacs.exe.  Is `strip' a Cygwin port,
> by chance?  You need `strip.exe' from the MinGW Binutils, not from
> Cygwin.

Whenever I've tried to strip the Emacs executable, I've got an invalid
emacs.exe.

That, using a MinGW strip.exe on a MinGW-compiled Emacs.

    Juanma

Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[David Robinow]

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 22:34, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> That probably means your `strip' command is incompatible with the
>> development tools used to build emacs.exe.  Is `strip' a Cygwin port,
>> by chance?  You need `strip.exe' from the MinGW Binutils, not from
>> Cygwin.
>
> Whenever I've tried to strip the Emacs executable, I've got an invalid
> emacs.exe.
>
> That, using a MinGW strip.exe on a MinGW-compiled Emacs.

I thought 'strip' had worked at some time in the past, but I'm getting
the same result.
Not that I actually care. I normally use  "configure --no-debug"

Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Jason Rumney]

David Robinow wrote:
> I thought 'strip' had worked at some time in the past

The oldest version of Emacs I have installed is 21.3, and strip causes 
the same problem there.

Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:44:48 +0800
> From: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> David Robinow wrote:
> > I thought 'strip' had worked at some time in the past
> 
> The oldest version of Emacs I have installed is 21.3, and strip causes 
> the same problem there.

In that case, I guess testing with -gstabs that I suggested is not
necessary.

Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Jason Rumney]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> That probably means your `strip' command is incompatible with the
> development tools used to build emacs.exe.  Is `strip' a Cygwin port,
> by chance?  You need `strip.exe' from the MinGW Binutils, not from
> Cygwin.
>   

I get the same error, using MinGW binutils on emacs.exe that I've built 
myself. It only happens with emacs.exe, so it is probably something in 
the dumping process confuses strip. My strip --version is:

GNU strip 2.17.50 20060824

If anyone has strip.exe working with emacs.exe, could you post your 
strip version here for comparison.

Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Óscar Fuentes]

Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> writes:

> I get the same error, using MinGW binutils on emacs.exe that I've
> built myself. It only happens with emacs.exe, so it is probably
> something in the dumping process confuses strip. My strip --version
> is:
>
> GNU strip 2.17.50 20060824
>
> If anyone has strip.exe working with emacs.exe, could you post your
> strip version here for comparison.

2.18.50.20080109 *FAILS* too.

-- 
Oscar

Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: =?windows-1252?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= <ofv@wanadoo.es>
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:53:49 +0100
> 
> Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > I get the same error, using MinGW binutils on emacs.exe that I've
> > built myself. It only happens with emacs.exe, so it is probably
> > something in the dumping process confuses strip. My strip --version
> > is:
> >
> > GNU strip 2.17.50 20060824
> >
> > If anyone has strip.exe working with emacs.exe, could you post your
> > strip version here for comparison.
> 
> 2.18.50.20080109 *FAILS* too.

As does

    GNU strip 2.15.91 20040904

I filed a bug report for this problem (I agree with Jason that
something in our dumping process confuses `strip').

I think this problem should be fixed before Emacs 23.1 is released.

Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Lennart Borgman]

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Emacs from: http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/
>
> The executable emacs.exe is larger than 32 Mb.
>
> http://ourcomments.org/cgi-bin/emacsw32-dl-latest.pl suffers the same
> problem.

No, the executable that comes with Emacs+EmacsW32 (from the link
above) is about 9 MB.

Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Lennart Borgman]

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Lennart Borgman
<lennart.borgman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Emacs from: http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/
>>
>> The executable emacs.exe is larger than 32 Mb.
>>
>> http://ourcomments.org/cgi-bin/emacsw32-dl-latest.pl suffers the same
>> problem.
>
> No, the executable that comes with Emacs+EmacsW32 (from the link
> above) is about 9 MB.


Ehum, Leo, you are right. The unpatched version (which comes with
debug information) is 33 MB.

The patched version (which does not contain debug information) is 9 MB.

Re: emacs.exe is > 32M for w32

[Chetan Pandya]

 
> Emacs from: http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/
> 
> The executable emacs.exe is larger than 32 Mb.
> 
> http://ourcomments.org/cgi-bin/emacsw32-dl-latest.pl suffers the same
> problem.
> 
> Can this be made smaller?  I have seen other people provided a much
> smaller executable (~8.7M). For example:
> 
> http://code.google.com/p/emacs-for-windows/
> 
It is possible to strip the executable (using strip.exe). It is generally better to have the debug information, as it can provide better diagnostics.  Pretest versions are generally meant for people who are willing to help with bugs so it makes sense to have debugging information.  It increases the download size, but has no other ill effects.