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[2003:df:703:4be2:5830:5d52:e6ee:7d49]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ky9-20020a170907778900b007801ce34311sm9002061ejc.19.2022.10.05.08.16.46 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 05 Oct 2022 08:16:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Dr Rainer Woitok X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-pc-linux) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::635; envelope-from=rainer.woitok@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x635.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:139721 Archived-At: Greetings, being in the process of "converting" from XEmacs to Emacs I currently am missing XEmacs' habbit of using a different cursor shape for a cursor sitting on an invisible EoL character as opposed to a cursor sitting on an as invisible trailing blank. I always loved this feature of XEmacs because I've always hated unnoticed trailing blanks :-) Searching the web up to now I only found references to using different cursors for active/inactive frames or for different major/minor modes. Because an EoL character is slimmer than a blank, I tried setting vari- able "x-stretch-cursor" to t, but as the "-stretch-" part in the name is already suggesting, this variable has only effect on wider characters. So I'm now asking the combined wisdom of this list whether or not there is a way to coax Emacs into using a different cursor at EoL. Any pointers welcome :-) Sincerely, Rainer