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From: Bob Rogers <rogers@rgrjr.com>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Adding a "quick-help" menu
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 12:25:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <25383.28829.76728.557579@orion.rgrjr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878rmgd0xo.fsf@posteo.net>

   From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
   Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 17:53:07 +0000

   Bob Rogers <rogers@rgrjr.com> writes:

   > A quick Web search for "emacs cheat sheet" turns up the "GNU Emacs
   > Reference Card" as the first hit -- followed by a bunch of others.  And
   > it occurs to me that, for a real newbie, a cheat sheet in a browser
   > window might be easier to work with than one within emacs itself.

   I might just be too young and lack the concentration that pre-gen-z
   people had that reference card always appeared too overwhelming for me.

Honestly, I think it was less a matter of concentration and more a
matter of memory for us oldsters.  In the days of terminals with crappy
bandwidth, a paper sheet beside you would save you from having to use
that precious bandwidth on emacs help commands, which were necessarily
just as slow as everything else.  If you had good memory, you were
golden; if not, you checked the cheat sheet; if you couldn't find it
there, you tried the help commands.

   I guess my suggestion isn't much better, it is the same thing just less
   of it...

FWIW, a friend and I put together a cheat sheet [1] for some total newbs
forced to use emacs for a three-week class.  We tried to make it less
intimidating by making it more focused and organizing it carefully.

					-- Bob

[1]  http://www.rgrjr.com/emacs/emacs_cheat.html (may be dated)



  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-18 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-16 15:43 Adding a "quick-help" menu Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-16 16:11 ` Sean Whitton
2022-09-16 16:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-16 16:48   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-16 17:03     ` Sławomir Grochowski
2022-09-16 17:22       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-17 12:09         ` Gregor Zattler
2022-09-17 14:44           ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-17 17:48             ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-17 21:45               ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-18  0:05                 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-18  5:41                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-18  9:10                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-18  5:07             ` Visuwesh
2022-09-18  7:51             ` Gregor Zattler
2022-09-17 14:53           ` which-key (was: Adding a "quick-help" menu) Stefan Monnier
2022-09-18  5:12             ` which-key Visuwesh
2022-09-18  8:56               ` which-key Gregory Heytings
2022-09-18  8:58             ` which-key (was: Adding a "quick-help" menu) Gregory Heytings
2022-09-18  9:19               ` which-key Po Lu
2022-09-18  9:53                 ` which-key Gregory Heytings
2022-09-18 10:10                   ` which-key Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-18 13:51                     ` which-key Stefan Monnier
2022-09-18 15:39                       ` which-key Stefan Kangas
2022-09-18 16:43                         ` which-key Gregor Zattler
2022-09-18 16:49                       ` which-key Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19  8:08                         ` which-key Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19  8:19                           ` which-key Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 13:26                             ` which-key Corwin Brust
2022-09-19 23:43                               ` which-key Emanuel Berg
2022-09-19  8:06                       ` which-key Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19  9:08                         ` which-key Stefan Kangas
2022-09-18 11:09                   ` which-key Po Lu
2022-09-17 16:47           ` [External] : Re: Adding a "quick-help" menu Drew Adams
2022-09-16 17:11     ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-16 17:29       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-16 17:38         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-09-16 17:36       ` Drew Adams
2022-09-16 18:00       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-09-17  1:56       ` Po Lu
2022-09-16 21:03 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-17 14:53   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-17  1:54 ` Po Lu
2022-09-17  2:51   ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-17  3:28     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-09-17  4:01       ` Visuwesh
2022-09-17  4:50       ` Po Lu
2022-09-17  4:48     ` Po Lu
2022-09-17  6:38       ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-17  8:24         ` Po Lu
2022-09-17  8:49   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-17 16:45     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-09-17 17:36       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-18 10:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-18 10:53   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-18 17:03     ` Bob Rogers
2022-09-18 17:53       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-18 19:25         ` Bob Rogers [this message]
2022-09-18 20:38         ` wilnerthomas--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-09-18 21:21           ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-18 22:45             ` Christopher Dimech
2022-09-18 23:00               ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-19  1:40                 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-09-19  7:54     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19  8:26       ` Po Lu
2022-09-19  9:08         ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-19  9:08     ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-19 10:12       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-13 14:30         ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-13 19:09           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-13 20:21             ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-14 11:03               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-14  7:30             ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-14 11:08               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-14 18:10                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16  0:29             ` Howard Melman
2022-10-16 16:01               ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 16:13                 ` Howard Melman
2022-10-16 22:44                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17  1:00                     ` Howard Melman
2022-10-17  1:00                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-17  6:17                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-17  6:29                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17  7:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-17  7:12                         ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-17 15:32                           ` Howard Melman
2022-10-17  5:10         ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-17  6:31           ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-20  5:58             ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2022-10-20  6:37               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-20 11:27                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-20 12:51                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-20 16:37                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-20 16:39                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-19 15:21     ` Howard Melman

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