* Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export?
@ 2012-02-16 17:45 Jos'h Fuller
2012-02-16 18:20 ` Nick Dokos
0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Jos'h Fuller @ 2012-02-16 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Hi!
I'm have an org-mode document something like this:
* Period 2012-02-06 to 2012-02-12
** Asset
*** DEPARTMENT
| Data | Data | Data | Data |
|-------------+------+------+------|
| XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 |
| YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 |
(There are more "Assets", each with several DEPARTMENTS. The tables are short, perhaps 10-15 rows.)
When I go to export a PDF, I will often get "DEPARTMENT" at the bottom of one page, with the actual data table at the start of the next. Is there any way to keep the heading together with the table?
I tried using the longtable environment, but that just splits the table itself, so that I might have the heading at the bottom of the page with one row of the table and a continued message. I also tried the LaTeX directives \goodbreak before the headings and \nobreak between the headings and tables but they didn't seem to affect anything.
Thanks very much!
_______________________________________________________________________________
Jos'h Fuller, Production Programmer
Arc Productions Ltd.
p: 416.682.5237 | f: 416.682.5209 | http://www.arcproductions.com
230 Richmond Street East | Toronto, ON M5A 1P4 |
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-16 17:45 Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? Jos'h Fuller @ 2012-02-16 18:20 ` Nick Dokos 2012-02-16 18:25 ` Jos'h Fuller 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2012-02-16 18:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jos'h Fuller; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Jos'h Fuller <Jos'h.Fuller@arcproductions.com> wrote: > Hi! > > I'm have an org-mode document something like this: > > * Period 2012-02-06 to 2012-02-12 > ** Asset > *** DEPARTMENT > | Data | Data | Data | Data | > |-------------+------+------+------| > | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | > | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | > > (There are more "Assets", each with several DEPARTMENTS. The tables are short, perhaps 10-15 rows.) > > When I go to export a PDF, I will often get "DEPARTMENT" at the bottom of one page, with the actual data table at the start of the next. Is there any way to keep the heading together with the table? > Try adding #+LATEX: \newpage before the heading where you want the page break to occur: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Period 2012-02-06 to 2012-02-12 ** Asset #+LATEX: \newpage *** DEPARTMENT | Data | Data | Data | Data | |-------------+------+------+------| | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- You should probably do that as a last resort in the last editing round, just to fix problematic spots. > I tried using the longtable environment, but that just splits the > table itself, so that I might have the heading at the bottom of the > page with one row of the table and a continued message. I also tried > the LaTeX directives \goodbreak before the headings and \nobreak > between the headings and tables but they didn't seem to affect > anything. > IIRC, these influence LaTeX's internal measures of whether this is a good or bad place to do it, but there are several factors in competition and they probably lose in comparison to the other factors. \newpage otoh is Thor's hammer: no questions asked. Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-16 18:20 ` Nick Dokos @ 2012-02-16 18:25 ` Jos'h Fuller 2012-02-16 18:58 ` Russell Adams 2012-02-16 19:44 ` Sebastien Vauban 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Jos'h Fuller @ 2012-02-16 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi! I am familiar with \newpage (and I especially like to put it at the front of the document to keep my content out of my table of contents!), but I was hoping to be able to do this in some more automatic fashion, since these are long reports and I want to be able to process them unattended. Is it possible to do something like this: * Period... ** Asset #+latex: \keepthisstufftogether{begin} *** DEPARTMENT A | Table | Data | Here. | | Table | Data | Here. | | Table | Data | Here. | #+latex: \keepthisstufftogether{end} *** DEPARTMENT B ... I have no idea what /actual/ LaTeX call fills in for "\keepthisstufftogether" though... Thanks! _______________________________________________________________________________ Jos'h Fuller, Production Programmer Arc Productions Ltd. p: 416.682.5237 | f: 416.682.5209 | http://www.arcproductions.com 230 Richmond Street East | Toronto, ON M5A 1P4 | > -----Original Message----- > From: nicholas.dokos@hp.com [mailto:nicholas.dokos@hp.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:21 PM > To: Jos'h Fuller > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; nicholas.dokos@hp.com > Subject: Re: [O] Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF > export? > > Jos'h Fuller <Jos'h.Fuller@arcproductions.com> wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > I'm have an org-mode document something like this: > > > > * Period 2012-02-06 to 2012-02-12 > > ** Asset > > *** DEPARTMENT > > | Data | Data | Data | Data | > > |-------------+------+------+------| > > | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | > > | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | > > > > (There are more "Assets", each with several DEPARTMENTS. The tables > are short, perhaps 10-15 rows.) > > > > When I go to export a PDF, I will often get "DEPARTMENT" at the > bottom of one page, with the actual data table at the start of the > next. Is there any way to keep the heading together with the table? > > > > Try adding > > #+LATEX: \newpage > > before the heading where you want the page break to occur: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > Period 2012-02-06 to 2012-02-12 > ** Asset > #+LATEX: \newpage > *** DEPARTMENT > | Data | Data | Data | Data | > |-------------+------+------+------| > | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | > | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | > > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > You should probably do that as a last resort in the last editing > round, just to fix problematic spots. > > > I tried using the longtable environment, but that just splits the > > table itself, so that I might have the heading at the bottom of the > > page with one row of the table and a continued message. I also tried > > the LaTeX directives \goodbreak before the headings and \nobreak > > between the headings and tables but they didn't seem to affect > > anything. > > > > IIRC, these influence LaTeX's internal measures of whether this is a > good or bad place to do it, but there are several factors in > competition > and they probably lose in comparison to the other factors. > > \newpage otoh is Thor's hammer: no questions asked. > > Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-16 18:25 ` Jos'h Fuller @ 2012-02-16 18:58 ` Russell Adams 2012-02-16 19:44 ` Sebastien Vauban 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Russell Adams @ 2012-02-16 18:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode I often use newpage myself, and have wondered if there were a way to ensure every first level (maybe second level too?) always had an automatic newpage before it. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 06:25:40PM +0000, Jos'h Fuller wrote: > Hi! > > I am familiar with \newpage (and I especially like to put it at the front of the document to keep my content out of my table of contents!), but I was hoping to be able to do this in some more automatic fashion, since these are long reports and I want to be able to process them unattended. > > Is it possible to do something like this: > > * Period... > ** Asset > #+latex: \keepthisstufftogether{begin} > *** DEPARTMENT A > | Table | Data | Here. | > | Table | Data | Here. | > | Table | Data | Here. | > #+latex: \keepthisstufftogether{end} > *** DEPARTMENT B > ... > > I have no idea what /actual/ LaTeX call fills in for "\keepthisstufftogether" though... > > Thanks! > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Jos'h Fuller, Production Programmer > > Arc Productions Ltd. > > p: 416.682.5237 | f: 416.682.5209 | http://www.arcproductions.com > 230 Richmond Street East | Toronto, ON M5A 1P4 | > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nicholas.dokos@hp.com [mailto:nicholas.dokos@hp.com] > > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:21 PM > > To: Jos'h Fuller > > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; nicholas.dokos@hp.com > > Subject: Re: [O] Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF > > export? > > > > Jos'h Fuller <Jos'h.Fuller@arcproductions.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > I'm have an org-mode document something like this: > > > > > > * Period 2012-02-06 to 2012-02-12 > > > ** Asset > > > *** DEPARTMENT > > > | Data | Data | Data | Data | > > > |-------------+------+------+------| > > > | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | > > > | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | > > > > > > (There are more "Assets", each with several DEPARTMENTS. The tables > > are short, perhaps 10-15 rows.) > > > > > > When I go to export a PDF, I will often get "DEPARTMENT" at the > > bottom of one page, with the actual data table at the start of the > > next. Is there any way to keep the heading together with the table? > > > > > > > Try adding > > > > #+LATEX: \newpage > > > > before the heading where you want the page break to occur: > > > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > > Period 2012-02-06 to 2012-02-12 > > ** Asset > > #+LATEX: \newpage > > *** DEPARTMENT > > | Data | Data | Data | Data | > > |-------------+------+------+------| > > | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | > > | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | > > > > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > > > You should probably do that as a last resort in the last editing > > round, just to fix problematic spots. > > > > > I tried using the longtable environment, but that just splits the > > > table itself, so that I might have the heading at the bottom of the > > > page with one row of the table and a continued message. I also tried > > > the LaTeX directives \goodbreak before the headings and \nobreak > > > between the headings and tables but they didn't seem to affect > > > anything. > > > > > > > IIRC, these influence LaTeX's internal measures of whether this is a > > good or bad place to do it, but there are several factors in > > competition > > and they probably lose in comparison to the other factors. > > > > \newpage otoh is Thor's hammer: no questions asked. > > > > Nick > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ Fingerprint: 1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-16 18:25 ` Jos'h Fuller 2012-02-16 18:58 ` Russell Adams @ 2012-02-16 19:44 ` Sebastien Vauban 2012-02-16 20:09 ` Jos'h Fuller 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2012-02-16 19:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ Hi Jos'h, Jos'h Fuller wrote: > I am familiar with \newpage (and I especially like to put it at the front of > the document to keep my content out of my table of contents!), but I was > hoping to be able to do this in some more automatic fashion, since these are > long reports and I want to be able to process them unattended. > > Is it possible to do something like this: > > * Period... > ** Asset > #+latex: \keepthisstufftogether{begin} > *** DEPARTMENT A > | Table | Data | Here. | > | Table | Data | Here. | > | Table | Data | Here. | > #+latex: \keepthisstufftogether{end} > *** DEPARTMENT B > ... > > I have no idea what /actual/ LaTeX call fills in for > "\keepthisstufftogether" though... I have written such a thing, years ago, first for LaTeX, now for Org: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- % how not to have a page break with what is following? \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- and I put whereever it's needed --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ** Asset #+latex: \mykeepwithnextpar{} *** DEPARTMENT A | Table | Data | Here. | | Table | Data | Here. | | Table | Data | Here. | *** DEPARTMENT B --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Does it work for you? Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-16 19:44 ` Sebastien Vauban @ 2012-02-16 20:09 ` Jos'h Fuller 2012-02-16 20:16 ` Jos'h Fuller 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Jos'h Fuller @ 2012-02-16 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sebastien Vauban, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Sebastien! I tried it, and it didn't work. However, I may not have set it up right: --snip!-- #+latex \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} #+latex: \newpage * Period... ** Asset #+latex: \mykeepwithnextpar{} *** DEPARTMENT | Table | Data | Here | --snip!-- Did I do this correctly or does the "mykeepwithnextpar" definition have to go into a different file? Thanks very much! _______________________________________________________________________________ Jos'h Fuller, Production Programmer Arc Productions Ltd. p: 416.682.5237 | f: 416.682.5209 | http://www.arcproductions.com 230 Richmond Street East | Toronto, ON M5A 1P4 | > -----Original Message----- > From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+jos'h.fuller=arcproductions.com@gnu.org > [mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+jos'h.fuller=arcproductions.com@gnu.org] > On Behalf Of Sebastien Vauban > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:44 PM > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: [O] Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF > export? > > Hi Jos'h, > > Jos'h Fuller wrote: > > I am familiar with \newpage (and I especially like to put it at the > front of > > the document to keep my content out of my table of contents!), but I > was > > hoping to be able to do this in some more automatic fashion, since > these are > > long reports and I want to be able to process them unattended. > > > > Is it possible to do something like this: > > > > * Period... > > ** Asset > > #+latex: \keepthisstufftogether{begin} > > *** DEPARTMENT A > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > #+latex: \keepthisstufftogether{end} > > *** DEPARTMENT B > > ... > > > > I have no idea what /actual/ LaTeX call fills in for > > "\keepthisstufftogether" though... > > I have written such a thing, years ago, first for LaTeX, now for Org: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > % how not to have a page break with what is following? > \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > and I put whereever it's needed > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > ** Asset > #+latex: \mykeepwithnextpar{} > *** DEPARTMENT A > | Table | Data | Here. | > | Table | Data | Here. | > | Table | Data | Here. | > *** DEPARTMENT B > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > Does it work for you? > > Best regards, > Seb > > -- > Sebastien Vauban > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-16 20:09 ` Jos'h Fuller @ 2012-02-16 20:16 ` Jos'h Fuller 2012-02-16 20:25 ` Sebastien Vauban 2012-02-16 21:12 ` Nick Dokos 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Jos'h Fuller @ 2012-02-16 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jos'h Fuller, Sebastien Vauban, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org OK, I'm an idiot. I forgot to put in the ":" after the "#+latex", so it didn't get processed correctly. However, once I did put it in, it does work to keep the headings together with the table data. However... it also seems to embed the spurious word "afterheading" (in italics) after most (but not all) of the top level headings in the file. So, it totally works to keep the headings and tables together, but the /afterheading/ thing is very strange. I've probably still done something wrong. Any ideas? Thanks again! Jos'h _______________________________________________________________________________ Jos'h Fuller, Production Programmer Arc Productions Ltd. p: 416.682.5237 | f: 416.682.5209 | http://www.arcproductions.com 230 Richmond Street East | Toronto, ON M5A 1P4 | > -----Original Message----- > From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+jos'h.fuller=arcproductions.com@gnu.org > [mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+jos'h.fuller=arcproductions.com@gnu.org] > On Behalf Of Jos'h Fuller > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:09 PM > To: Sebastien Vauban; emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: [O] Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF > export? > > Hi Sebastien! > > I tried it, and it didn't work. However, I may not have set it up > right: > > --snip!-- > #+latex \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} > > #+latex: \newpage > * Period... > ** Asset > #+latex: \mykeepwithnextpar{} > *** DEPARTMENT > | Table | Data | Here | > --snip!-- > > Did I do this correctly or does the "mykeepwithnextpar" definition have > to go into a different file? > > Thanks very much! > _______________________________________________________________________ > ________ > > Jos'h Fuller, Production Programmer > > Arc Productions Ltd. > > p: 416.682.5237 | f: 416.682.5209 | > http://www.arcproductions.com > 230 Richmond Street East | Toronto, ON M5A 1P4 | > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+jos'h.fuller=arcproductions.com@gnu.org > > [mailto:emacs-orgmode- > bounces+jos'h.fuller=arcproductions.com@gnu.org] > > On Behalf Of Sebastien Vauban > > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:44 PM > > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > Subject: Re: [O] Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF > > export? > > > > Hi Jos'h, > > > > Jos'h Fuller wrote: > > > I am familiar with \newpage (and I especially like to put it at the > > front of > > > the document to keep my content out of my table of contents!), but > I > > was > > > hoping to be able to do this in some more automatic fashion, since > > these are > > > long reports and I want to be able to process them unattended. > > > > > > Is it possible to do something like this: > > > > > > * Period... > > > ** Asset > > > #+latex: \keepthisstufftogether{begin} > > > *** DEPARTMENT A > > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > > #+latex: \keepthisstufftogether{end} > > > *** DEPARTMENT B > > > ... > > > > > > I have no idea what /actual/ LaTeX call fills in for > > > "\keepthisstufftogether" though... > > > > I have written such a thing, years ago, first for LaTeX, now for Org: > > > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > > % how not to have a page break with what is following? > > \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} > > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > > > and I put whereever it's needed > > > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > > ** Asset > > #+latex: \mykeepwithnextpar{} > > *** DEPARTMENT A > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > *** DEPARTMENT B > > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > > > Does it work for you? > > > > Best regards, > > Seb > > > > -- > > Sebastien Vauban > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-16 20:16 ` Jos'h Fuller @ 2012-02-16 20:25 ` Sebastien Vauban 2012-02-16 21:02 ` Nick Dokos 2012-02-16 21:12 ` Nick Dokos 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2012-02-16 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ Jos'h, Jos'h Fuller wrote: > OK, I'm an idiot. I forgot to put in the ":" after the "#+latex", so it > didn't get processed correctly. That happens to everybody... No need to be an idiot ;-) > However, once I did put it in, it does work to keep the headings together with > the table data. However... it also seems to embed the spurious word > "afterheading" (in italics) after most (but not all) of the top level headings > in the file. > > So, it totally works to keep the headings and tables together, but the > /afterheading/ thing is very strange. > > I've probably still done something wrong. Any ideas? Strange. Maybe, you could send here an ECM (Minimal Complete Example) that shows the bug without the \mykeepwithnextpar and shows the afterheading problem with it... So that one can try to reproduce your problem without loosing too much time, in order to help you better and quicker. BTW, you should put \mykeepwithnextpar after the heading "DEPARTMENT A", not before (as I wrote)... >> > I have written such a thing, years ago, first for LaTeX, now for Org: >> > >> > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> > % how not to have a page break with what is following? >> > \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} >> > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >> > >> > and I put whereever it's needed >> > >> > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> > ** Asset >> > #+latex: \mykeepwithnextpar{} >> > *** DEPARTMENT A >> > | Table | Data | Here. | >> > | Table | Data | Here. | >> > | Table | Data | Here. | >> > *** DEPARTMENT B >> > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-16 20:25 ` Sebastien Vauban @ 2012-02-16 21:02 ` Nick Dokos 2012-02-17 8:05 ` Stefan Nobis 2012-02-17 8:55 ` Sebastien Vauban 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2012-02-16 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sebastien Vauban; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode Sebastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> wrote: > Jos'h, > > Jos'h Fuller wrote: > > OK, I'm an idiot. I forgot to put in the ":" after the "#+latex", so it > > didn't get processed correctly. > > That happens to everybody... No need to be an idiot ;-) > > > However, once I did put it in, it does work to keep the headings together with > > the table data. However... it also seems to embed the spurious word > > "afterheading" (in italics) after most (but not all) of the top level headings > > in the file. > > > > So, it totally works to keep the headings and tables together, but the > > /afterheading/ thing is very strange. > > > > I've probably still done something wrong. Any ideas? > > Strange. Maybe, you could send here an ECM (Minimal Complete Example) that > shows the bug without the \mykeepwithnextpar and shows the afterheading > problem with it... > > So that one can try to reproduce your problem without loosing too much time, > in order to help you better and quicker. > > BTW, you should put \mykeepwithnextpar after the heading "DEPARTMENT A", not > before (as I wrote)... > > >> > I have written such a thing, years ago, first for LaTeX, now for Org: > >> > > >> > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > >> > % how not to have a page break with what is following? > >> > \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} > >> > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > >> > > >> > and I put whereever it's needed > >> > > >> > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > >> > ** Asset > >> > #+latex: \mykeepwithnextpar{} > >> > *** DEPARTMENT A > >> > | Table | Data | Here. | > >> > | Table | Data | Here. | > >> > | Table | Data | Here. | > >> > *** DEPARTMENT B > >> > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > @ is a character that is reserved for .sty files: it's basically used as a mechanism to manufacture private names that are not going to conflict with other names. If you want to use @ in a macro in your .tex file, then you have to do something like this: #+LaTeX_HEADER: \makeatletter #+LaTeX_HEADER: \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} #+LaTeX_HEADER: \makeatother However the best thing is to put the definition in a .sty file: --8<---------------keeper.sty---------------start------------->8--- \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} --8<---------------keeper.sty---------------end--------------->8--- and then use --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{keeper} --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- in your .org file. However, I find it exceedingly difficult to manufacture an example that will produce the bad break that the OP reports: LaTeX seems very reluctant to break after the headline. E.g. in the appended file, I can vary the number of foo lines from 0 to enough to fill the page and I cannot split the DEPARTMENT headline from the table. I also tried various lengths for the table (not very systematically, I must admit) and I still cannot get the default settings to misbehave. This leads me to believe that there are those "other" factors that affect badness: LaTeX thinks that there is something so severely out of whack in the "other" factors that it is willing to make the supreme sacrifice of splitting the headline from the table. So if the OP can provide a misbehaving example, that could help clarify things. Nick PS. Note that the call to \mykeewithnextpar is disabled in the file below. If I enable it, I actually get a foo line at the top of the second page before the DEPARTMENT headline, so it certainly affects the output, but not in a good way. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{keeper} * Period 2012-02-06 to 2012-02-12 ** Asset foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo ##+LATEX: \mykeepwithnextpar{} *** DEPARTMENT | Data | Data | Data | Data | |-------------+------+------+------| | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-16 21:02 ` Nick Dokos @ 2012-02-17 8:05 ` Stefan Nobis 2012-02-17 8:13 ` Ian Barton 2012-02-17 8:55 ` Sebastien Vauban 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Stefan Nobis @ 2012-02-17 8:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: nicholas.dokos; +Cc: Sebastien Vauban, emacs-orgmode Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes: > \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} > However, I find it exceedingly difficult to manufacture an example > that will produce the bad break that the OP reports: LaTeX seems > very reluctant to break after the headline. Yes. That's because the above snippet is already part of the definition of a section (from chapter down to paragraph). IIRC it's defined in the latex kernel. Therefore it should not make any difference if the command is only used directly after a sectioning command. One way to ensure that some part of the document is always seen as a single entity by latex is to put it in a minipage (maybe there are better options, but that's my fallback if I need to ensure that something is always kept together). -- Until the next mail..., Stefan. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-17 8:05 ` Stefan Nobis @ 2012-02-17 8:13 ` Ian Barton 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Ian Barton @ 2012-02-17 8:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode On 17/02/12 08:05, Stefan Nobis wrote: > Nick Dokos<nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes: > >> \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} > >> However, I find it exceedingly difficult to manufacture an example >> that will produce the bad break that the OP reports: LaTeX seems >> very reluctant to break after the headline. > I am just starting to use Latex, so apologies for any noobish blunders:) In conventional typesetting this problem is referred to as "Widows and Orphans". There is a bit in the FAQ at http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=widows which might offer some additional help. Ian. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-16 21:02 ` Nick Dokos 2012-02-17 8:05 ` Stefan Nobis @ 2012-02-17 8:55 ` Sebastien Vauban 2012-02-17 16:40 ` Nick Dokos 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2012-02-17 8:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ Hi Nick, Nick Dokos wrote: > @ is a character that is reserved for .sty files: it's basically used as > a mechanism to manufacture private names that are not going to conflict > with other names. If you want to use @ in a macro in your .tex file, > then you have to do something like this: > > #+LaTeX_HEADER: \makeatletter > #+LaTeX_HEADER: \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} > #+LaTeX_HEADER: \makeatother > > However the best thing is to put the definition in a .sty file: > > --8<---------------keeper.sty---------------start------------->8--- > \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} > --8<---------------keeper.sty---------------end--------------->8--- > > and then use > > #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{keeper} > > in your .org file. In my case, yes, that's in a style file... reason allowing me to forget to mention the makeatletter thingie. > However, I find it exceedingly difficult to manufacture an example that > will produce the bad break that the OP reports: LaTeX seems very > reluctant to break after the headline. E.g. in the appended file, I can > vary the number of foo lines from 0 to enough to fill the page and I > cannot split the DEPARTMENT headline from the table. I also tried > various lengths for the table (not very systematically, I must admit) > and I still cannot get the default settings to misbehave. This leads me > to believe that there are those "other" factors that affect badness: > LaTeX thinks that there is something so severely out of whack in the > "other" factors that it is willing to make the supreme sacrifice of > splitting the headline from the table. > > So if the OP can provide a misbehaving example, that could help clarify > things. > > Nick > > PS. Note that the call to \mykeewithnextpar is disabled in the file > below. If I enable it, I actually get a foo line at the top of the > second page before the DEPARTMENT headline, so it certainly affects > the output, but not in a good way. You cannot reproduce it, because I misplaced the call to mykeewithnextpar: it must be between the two things you want to see glue'd together. Hence, in the example you mention, it works perfectly. For answering the OP's question, the call must be moved between the DEPARTMENT title and the table... > #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{keeper} > > * Period 2012-02-06 to 2012-02-12 > ** Asset > foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo > foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo > foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo > foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo > foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo > foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo > foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo > foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo > foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo > foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo > foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foofoo foo foo foo foo foo > ##+LATEX: \mykeepwithnextpar{} > *** DEPARTMENT > | Data | Data | Data | Data | > |-------------+------+------+------| > | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | > | YYYYYY | 5 | 4 | 0 | > | XXXXXX | 1 | 1 | 0 | Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-17 8:55 ` Sebastien Vauban @ 2012-02-17 16:40 ` Nick Dokos 2012-02-17 16:50 ` Sebastien Vauban 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2012-02-17 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sebastien Vauban; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode Sebastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> wrote: > You cannot reproduce it, because I misplaced the call to mykeewithnextpar: it > must be between the two things you want to see glue'd together. > > Hence, in the example you mention, it works perfectly. > No, that's not what I'm talking about: I'm not using your mechanism at all (note the disabling ## in front). What I'm saying is that I find it exceedingly difficult to reproduce the behavior the OP reported at all: no tricks, just export to LaTeX and process. That's why I wanted to see an example of the input file. My contention is that LaTeX is pretty good at keeping things together that should be together, so the misbehavior indicates some *other* kind of problem: e.g. there is a fairly well known problem that causes all of the figures to end up at the end of the chapter, because the constraints imposed by the user make it impossible to DTRT. Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-17 16:40 ` Nick Dokos @ 2012-02-17 16:50 ` Sebastien Vauban 2012-02-17 17:19 ` Nick Dokos 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2012-02-17 16:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ Hi Nick, Nick Dokos wrote: > Sebastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> You cannot reproduce it, because I misplaced the call to mykeewithnextpar: it >> must be between the two things you want to see glue'd together. >> >> Hence, in the example you mention, it works perfectly. > > No, that's not what I'm talking about: I'm not using your mechanism at > all (note the disabling ## in front). What I'm saying is that I find it > exceedingly difficult to reproduce the behavior the OP reported at all: > no tricks, just export to LaTeX and process. That's why I wanted to see > an example of the input file. OK. Sorry for misreading... > My contention is that LaTeX is pretty good at keeping things together > that should be together, so the misbehavior indicates some *other* kind > of problem: e.g. there is a fairly well known problem that causes all of > the figures to end up at the end of the chapter, because the constraints > imposed by the user make it impossible to DTRT. Things that can easily make LaTeX become crazy is changing the color of the titles. In such a case, LaTeX will allow much more easily to break after the title, even if at bottom of page, as changing color somehow affects penalty. Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-17 16:50 ` Sebastien Vauban @ 2012-02-17 17:19 ` Nick Dokos 2012-02-17 21:48 ` Sebastien Vauban 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2012-02-17 17:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sebastien Vauban; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode Sebastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> wrote: > Things that can easily make LaTeX become crazy is changing the color of the > titles. In such a case, LaTeX will allow much more easily to break after the > title, even if at bottom of page, as changing color somehow affects penalty. > Never heard of that one (but I haven't been on comp.text.tex for many years now): do you have a reference to the problem somewhere? Thanks, Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-17 17:19 ` Nick Dokos @ 2012-02-17 21:48 ` Sebastien Vauban 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2012-02-17 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ Hi Nick, Nick Dokos wrote: > Sebastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> Things that can easily make LaTeX become crazy is changing the color of the >> titles. In such a case, LaTeX will allow much more easily to break after the >> title, even if at bottom of page, as changing color somehow affects penalty. > > Never heard of that one (but I haven't been on comp.text.tex for many > years now): do you have a reference to the problem somewhere? You've made me work like our Thomas: I've made some archeology to find back the answer given by Ulrike Fischer (on 09/22... 2008, 14:57) to one of my questions (on FCTT, the French Tex related newsgroup): Le saut de page vient probablement de \color qui insere un breakpoint. http://www.latex-project.org/cgi-bin/ltxbugs2html?pr=graphics%2F3417 Tu peux essayer \color{blue}\nobreak. Translation: The page break probably comes from \color which inserts a breakpoint. http://www.latex-project.org/cgi-bin/ltxbugs2html?pr=graphics%2F3417 You can try \color{blue}\nobreak. Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-16 20:16 ` Jos'h Fuller 2012-02-16 20:25 ` Sebastien Vauban @ 2012-02-16 21:12 ` Nick Dokos 2012-02-16 23:12 ` Jos'h Fuller 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2012-02-16 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jos'h Fuller; +Cc: Sebastien Vauban, nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Jos'h Fuller <Jos'h.Fuller@arcproductions.com> wrote: > OK, I'm an idiot. I forgot to put in the ":" after the "#+latex", so > it didn't get processed correctly. Indeed, I've *never* made such an idiotic mistake (well, at least not since yesterday) - how could you? :-) OTOH, I tend to forget the + routinely, but you know what they say: to each his own blind spot. On a more serious note, things that need to end up in the preamble should be marked #+LaTeX_HEADER: \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} (and note my other post about @). The #+LATEX: \foo markup is for things that end up in the document environment. Nick > > However, once I did put it in, it does work to keep the headings together with the table data. However... it also seems to embed the spurious word "afterheading" (in italics) after most (but not all) of the top level headings in the file. > > So, it totally works to keep the headings and tables together, but the /afterheading/ thing is very strange. > > I've probably still done something wrong. Any ideas? > > Thanks again! > > Jos'h > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Jos'h Fuller, Production Programmer > > Arc Productions Ltd. > > p: 416.682.5237 | f: 416.682.5209 | http://www.arcproductions.com > 230 Richmond Street East | Toronto, ON M5A 1P4 | > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+jos'h.fuller=arcproductions.com@gnu.org > > [mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+jos'h.fuller=arcproductions.com@gnu.org] > > On Behalf Of Jos'h Fuller > > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:09 PM > > To: Sebastien Vauban; emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > Subject: Re: [O] Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF > > export? > > > > Hi Sebastien! > > > > I tried it, and it didn't work. However, I may not have set it up > > right: > > > > --snip!-- > > #+latex \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} > > > > #+latex: \newpage > > * Period... > > ** Asset > > #+latex: \mykeepwithnextpar{} > > *** DEPARTMENT > > | Table | Data | Here | > > --snip!-- > > > > Did I do this correctly or does the "mykeepwithnextpar" definition have > > to go into a different file? > > > > Thanks very much! > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > ________ > > > > Jos'h Fuller, Production Programmer > > > > Arc Productions Ltd. > > > > p: 416.682.5237 | f: 416.682.5209 | > > http://www.arcproductions.com > > 230 Richmond Street East | Toronto, ON M5A 1P4 | > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+jos'h.fuller=arcproductions.com@gnu.org > > > [mailto:emacs-orgmode- > > bounces+jos'h.fuller=arcproductions.com@gnu.org] > > > On Behalf Of Sebastien Vauban > > > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:44 PM > > > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > > Subject: Re: [O] Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF > > > export? > > > > > > Hi Jos'h, > > > > > > Jos'h Fuller wrote: > > > > I am familiar with \newpage (and I especially like to put it at the > > > front of > > > > the document to keep my content out of my table of contents!), but > > I > > > was > > > > hoping to be able to do this in some more automatic fashion, since > > > these are > > > > long reports and I want to be able to process them unattended. > > > > > > > > Is it possible to do something like this: > > > > > > > > * Period... > > > > ** Asset > > > > #+latex: \keepthisstufftogether{begin} > > > > *** DEPARTMENT A > > > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > > > #+latex: \keepthisstufftogether{end} > > > > *** DEPARTMENT B > > > > ... > > > > > > > > I have no idea what /actual/ LaTeX call fills in for > > > > "\keepthisstufftogether" though... > > > > > > I have written such a thing, years ago, first for LaTeX, now for Org: > > > > > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > > > % how not to have a page break with what is following? > > > \def\mykeepwithnextpar{\par\nobreak\@afterheading} > > > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > > > > > and I put whereever it's needed > > > > > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > > > ** Asset > > > #+latex: \mykeepwithnextpar{} > > > *** DEPARTMENT A > > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > > | Table | Data | Here. | > > > *** DEPARTMENT B > > > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > > > > > Does it work for you? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Seb > > > > > > -- > > > Sebastien Vauban > > > > > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-16 21:12 ` Nick Dokos @ 2012-02-16 23:12 ` Jos'h Fuller 2012-02-17 8:50 ` Stefan Nobis 2012-02-17 9:09 ` Stefan Nobis 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Jos'h Fuller @ 2012-02-16 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com; +Cc: Sebastien Vauban, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi! Thanks for your kind words! ; - ) I did wrap the "mykeepwithnextpar" definition and I moved the call between the heading and the table as suggested, but it still doesn't seem to want to cooperate (heading on one page, table on the next). Since this seems to be strange behaviour, I will set up a minimal failing %.org file and send it tomorrow to demonstrate the problem. Thanks again! Jos'h _______________________________________________________________________________ Jos'h Fuller, Production Programmer Arc Productions Ltd. p: 416.682.5237 | f: 416.682.5209 | http://www.arcproductions.com 230 Richmond Street East | Toronto, ON M5A 1P4 | ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-16 23:12 ` Jos'h Fuller @ 2012-02-17 8:50 ` Stefan Nobis 2012-02-17 9:09 ` Stefan Nobis 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Stefan Nobis @ 2012-02-17 8:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jos'h Fuller Cc: Sebastien Vauban, nicholas.dokos@hp.com, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Jos'h Fuller <Jos'h.Fuller@arcproductions.com> writes: > but it still doesn't seem to want to cooperate (heading on one page, > table on the next). Reading this again, another hint: If the table is exported to tabular and wrapped in a figure environment, then that might be the problem. I'm not familiar with org-modes latex export. But if you show me the resulting LaTeX code, maybe I could help on the LaTeX side. -- Until the next mail..., Stefan. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-16 23:12 ` Jos'h Fuller 2012-02-17 8:50 ` Stefan Nobis @ 2012-02-17 9:09 ` Stefan Nobis 2012-02-17 16:42 ` Nick Dokos 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Stefan Nobis @ 2012-02-17 9:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Jos'h Fuller <Jos'h.Fuller@arcproductions.com> writes: > Hi! > Thanks for your kind words! ; - ) > I did wrap the "mykeepwithnextpar" definition and I moved the call between the heading > and the table as suggested, but it still doesn't seem to want to cooperate (heading on > one page, table on the next). I just tried to export the example posted by Nick. The tabluar is wrapped in a center environment. I think this is the problem. Without the help of something like the minipage environment I think it is impossible to prevent page breaks before the centered object in the general case (the problem is not the centering but the environment "center" is implemented with the help of a list environment and IIRC lists allow page breaks around them). As I'm not a LaTeX expert it may be helpful to ask on comp.text.tex for some tipps. -- Until the next mail..., Stefan. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? 2012-02-17 9:09 ` Stefan Nobis @ 2012-02-17 16:42 ` Nick Dokos 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2012-02-17 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Nobis; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode Stefan Nobis <stefan-ml@snobis.de> wrote: > Jos'h Fuller <Jos'h.Fuller@arcproductions.com> writes: > > > Hi! > > > Thanks for your kind words! ; - ) > > > I did wrap the "mykeepwithnextpar" definition and I moved the call between the heading > > and the table as suggested, but it still doesn't seem to want to cooperate (heading on > > one page, table on the next). > > I just tried to export the example posted by Nick. The tabluar is > wrapped in a center environment. I think this is the problem. Without > the help of something like the minipage environment I think it is > impossible to prevent page breaks before the centered object in the > general case (the problem is not the centering but the environment > "center" is implemented with the help of a list environment and IIRC > lists allow page breaks around them). > > As I'm not a LaTeX expert it may be helpful to ask on comp.text.tex > for some tipps. > But there is still a LARGE penalty for breaking there: it's not impossible to produce but it *is* hard. I agree with you that we are not going to solve it until we see an example input file that reproduces the problem. Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2012-02-17 21:48 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 21+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2012-02-16 17:45 Controlling pagination on headings in Latex/PDF export? Jos'h Fuller 2012-02-16 18:20 ` Nick Dokos 2012-02-16 18:25 ` Jos'h Fuller 2012-02-16 18:58 ` Russell Adams 2012-02-16 19:44 ` Sebastien Vauban 2012-02-16 20:09 ` Jos'h Fuller 2012-02-16 20:16 ` Jos'h Fuller 2012-02-16 20:25 ` Sebastien Vauban 2012-02-16 21:02 ` Nick Dokos 2012-02-17 8:05 ` Stefan Nobis 2012-02-17 8:13 ` Ian Barton 2012-02-17 8:55 ` Sebastien Vauban 2012-02-17 16:40 ` Nick Dokos 2012-02-17 16:50 ` Sebastien Vauban 2012-02-17 17:19 ` Nick Dokos 2012-02-17 21:48 ` Sebastien Vauban 2012-02-16 21:12 ` Nick Dokos 2012-02-16 23:12 ` Jos'h Fuller 2012-02-17 8:50 ` Stefan Nobis 2012-02-17 9:09 ` Stefan Nobis 2012-02-17 16:42 ` Nick Dokos
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