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[173.29.243.191]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z8sm7123348igi.5.2012.07.15.14.20.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:20:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.213.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151636 Archived-At: For anyone using Homebrew on OS X that wants to try the "mac" version, I = have updated the "emacs.rb" build recipe to allow a "--mac" option when = building Emacs. It is working for me but not accepted in the main = Homebrew tree because the maintainers weren't sure how many people would = use it. Here is the pull request: https://github.com/mxcl/homebrew/pull/13298 On Jul 15, 2012, at 12:50 PM, chad wrote: >=20 > On Jul 15, 2012, at 6:12 AM, Paul Michael Reilly wrote: >>=20 >> And I concur. Perhaps someone can explain to me the downside of = having Yamamoto place his tree as a sibling to the ns tree. [...] >>=20 >> That said, I use the ns tree daily and love it. [...] >=20 > This, I think, is the practical problem we keep running into. The mac = port has never integrated with the development head well (in the 2+ = years I've been watching), and it doesn't look like it will live next to = the ns port without significant effort. On the flip side, while some = people seem to have a much better experience with the mac port than the = ns port, others (including myself) have the opposite experience.=20 >=20 > Right now, we're the closest we've ever been to being able to try the = mac port code with the current emacs (not the last release, but the = current code), and from what I'm hearing 2-4 people have made small = attempts at integrating the two and failed. I'm sure that a dedicated = effort would succeed, but it won't be trivial, and it might not even be = easy. This really seems like a place where arguing pre-code is not very = helpful - let's get a working dev+mac tree somewhere, and then figure = out what to do with them. >=20 > Hopefully this isn't making things worse, > *Chad >=20 >=20