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[50.138.183.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w35sm10098836qtc.55.2017.04.03.11.35.18 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Apr 2017 11:35:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20170403165736.GA2851@acm> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:213621 Archived-At: On Apr 3, 2017, at 12:57, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Ken. >=20 > I, for one, am feeling enthusiastic about this new way of building = Emacs, > and am looking forward to trying it out in the near future. >=20 > Thanks for a great job almost finished! Just making sure credit goes where it=E2=80=99s due: Stefan did great = work on the key piece, processing the Lisp environment for dumping as = Lisp. I=E2=80=99ve tried to improve the Lisp reader performance a bit, = and fix up a couple minor bugs here and there, and maybe put a little = polish on it. Despite a few little speed-ups, I=E2=80=99ve got my doubts as to whether = it=E2=80=99s going to be fast enough. The .elc files are still = (essentially) Lisp, and parsing text is not the most efficient way to = load a bunch of object definitions. Ken=