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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277515 Archived-At: SG! Let's codify this decision by adding comments to the code that say that in case of disagreement between kbd and kbd-valid-p, kbd is authoritative --- thi salso meets my earlier request for having a firm spec what valid keys are. Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > "T.V Raman" writes: >=20 > > Lars -- I agree in principle, but I think the details matter; let'= s > > rephrase as "We dont need to or even *shouldn't* plan to support *= every* > > syntactic nuance used by kbd". > > > > Many of the weird corner cases that kbd supports --- likely mostly= by > > accident --- will never be typed by users in their emacs configura= tion. >=20 > Oh, no -- we're aiming for the syntax defined by `kdb-valid-p', whic= h is > a small subset of the stuff that `kbd' accepts. >=20 > --=20 > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no --=20 Thanks, --Raman(I Search, I Find, I Misplace, I Research) =E2=99=89 Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 =F0=9F=A6=AE -- Thanks, --Raman(I Search, I Find, I Misplace, I Research) ♉ Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 🦮