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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: Florian Beck <abstraktion@t-online.de>, 9054@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#9054: 24.0.50; show source in other window
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 10:35:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2444c393-7fb9-825b-4601-36027f653b4a@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tuisras8.fsf@gnus.org>

 > Nice.  It's a bit of a mouthful for users, though.

It's a bit fragile as well.  We have a `display-buffer' help-args text
property at that position so everything seems in place already.  But I
would have to understand `help-function-def--button-function' first ...

 >> Did you try Juri's proposal?
 >
 > I don't think we can expect users to do all that just to change the
 > behaviour of these *Help* commands.

Agreed.

 > Perhaps if we put the
 > `display-buffer-from-help-p' function into Emacs.

I think we should specify something like a _general_ `display-buffer'
text property that would specify the basic (aka historic) action
(`pop-to-buffer' in the case at hand) here.  Then have `display-buffer',
before it does its `display-buffer-assq-regexp' job, look whether there
"is a `display-buffer' text property around where the user just clicked
or where point is" and perform a corresponding action based on whether
`display-buffer-alist' has a "somehow specified" entry (not a regexp and
not a function) for it and do either that or what the `display-buffer'
text-property says.

 > `help-window-select' is (if you squint at it) the kinda-sorta user
 > option in the opposite direction,

`help-window-select' is for users who want to get rid of the *Help*
window by just typing "q" thus avoiding the "Type \"q\" in help window"
excursion where they have to explicitly select the *Help* window just to
quit it.

 > so perhaps the way forward here is to
 > just define a new user option, or all a new value (`both'?) that affects
 > how windows are selected from the *Help* window.  I guess a new user
 > option would be the simplest.

Agreed.  But we should decide whether we only want it for *Help* windows
and what kind of additional semantics we should support, if any.

martin





  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-11  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-11 18:31 bug#9054: 24.0.50; show source in other window Florian Beck
2011-07-12  8:21 ` martin rudalics
2011-08-31 16:52   ` Juri Linkov
2011-09-01  0:26     ` martin rudalics
2021-09-07 18:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-07 19:11   ` martin rudalics
2021-09-07 19:17     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-08  8:29       ` martin rudalics
2021-09-08 10:30         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-09  8:34           ` martin rudalics
2021-09-09 13:13             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-10  8:34               ` martin rudalics
2021-09-22 21:20           ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-23  8:16             ` martin rudalics
2021-09-23 12:52               ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-26  9:10                 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-26 14:04                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-09 17:20   ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-10 10:21     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-10 16:15       ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-11  8:38         ` martin rudalics
2021-09-11 18:51           ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-13  8:02             ` martin rudalics
2021-09-13 17:57               ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-13 18:43                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-15  9:28                   ` martin rudalics
2021-09-15 16:07                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-15 18:48                       ` martin rudalics
2021-09-17  7:21                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-17  7:39                           ` martin rudalics
2021-09-17 16:04                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-18  7:36                               ` martin rudalics
2021-09-18 16:30                                 ` bug#9054: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-19 16:20                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-19 17:27                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-19 17:35                                     ` bug#9054: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-19 17:43                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-20  8:21                                     ` martin rudalics
2021-09-20 14:11                                       ` bug#9054: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-21  8:32                                         ` martin rudalics
2021-09-21 17:52                                           ` Drew Adams
2021-09-22  7:49                                             ` martin rudalics
2021-09-22 15:17                                               ` Drew Adams
2021-09-22 15:43                                                 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-22 16:09                                                   ` Drew Adams
2021-09-22 16:18                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-22 16:49                                                       ` Drew Adams
2021-09-22 17:30                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-22 18:22                                                           ` Drew Adams
2021-09-22 18:42                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-20  8:21                                   ` martin rudalics
2021-09-20 15:20                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-21  8:34                                       ` martin rudalics
2021-09-21 18:05                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-22  7:48                                           ` martin rudalics
2021-09-22 17:10                                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-23  8:15                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-09-23 15:46                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-26  9:10                                                   ` martin rudalics
2021-09-23  8:51                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-09-23 16:33                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-26  9:11                                                   ` martin rudalics
2021-09-29 17:47                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-30 16:18                                                       ` martin rudalics
2021-10-03 17:36                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-04  8:28                                                           ` martin rudalics
2021-10-04 17:28                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-05  8:09                                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-09-14 11:07                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-15  9:28                   ` martin rudalics
2021-09-15  9:30                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-15  9:42                       ` martin rudalics
2021-10-23  0:46                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-15  9:27                 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-15 16:05                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-15 18:47                     ` martin rudalics
2021-09-16 18:53                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-16 19:11                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-17  7:39                         ` martin rudalics
2021-09-17 16:05                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-18  7:35                             ` martin rudalics
2021-09-11  8:35       ` martin rudalics [this message]
2021-09-11 12:43         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-11 16:42           ` martin rudalics
2021-09-13  7:50             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-13  8:10               ` martin rudalics
2021-09-22 20:43           ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-23  8:16             ` martin rudalics
2021-09-23 12:49               ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-26  9:09                 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-26 13:56                   ` Arthur Miller
2022-05-02  9:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-02 16:05   ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-03 10:29     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-03 17:25       ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-03 18:03         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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