From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Merten Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: rst-mode deprecated keybindings: okay to remove? During freeze? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:09:25 +0100 Message-ID: <2444.1389355765@eskebo.homelinux.merten-home.de> References: <52CA23CA.40901@dancol.org> <16209.1389040507@eskebo.homelinux.merten-home.de> <52CB1554.5020004@dancol.org> <22645.1389173701@eskebo.homelinux.merten-home.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389356638 11636 80.91.229.3 (10 Jan 2014 12:23:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 12:23:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Wei-Wei Guo , Martin Blais , David Goodger To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 10 13:24:04 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W1b84-0007hv-VO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:24:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56562 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1b84-0003Nd-IX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:24:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48343) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1awb-0001kr-Dr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:12:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1awT-0000SR-VR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:12:09 -0500 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.10]:51484) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1awT-0000Rm-MG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:12:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eskebo.homelinux.merten-home.de (krsn-5d8008eb.pool.mediaWays.net [93.128.8.235]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MHpe9-1Vy22L4BjR-003Jta; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:11:50 +0100 Original-Received: by eskebo.homelinux.merten-home.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3535BC0D58; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:09:25 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from eskebo.homelinux.merten-home.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eskebo.homelinux.merten-home.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24465C0D35; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:09:25 +0100 (CET) In-reply-to: <22645.1389173701@eskebo.homelinux.merten-home.de> Comments: In-reply-to Stefan Merten message dated "Wed, 08 Jan 2014 10:35:01 +0100." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.3; GNU Emacs 23.3.1 X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:eurvCH1D0HUigEITAamkOb0PJ1rUw7SaqP2QW1p/n1r ZWOMFK+UT9iEJ6z/hW9zDN0fwjtOk/XIfraBVbMpmKkgyTR2Ba 5JMmrhCwZpH3xXJfM19aVwJACc160N6W6OT9nbqya94S2cd3wB 4LrPa7yFR5UIcJL8cJH2YG43KARCKMvlRKgWuOb67B/gygVu2z CW8UzD1Xih44UBJRspJs+yMuSOe3LR96XduTCmouuvpCB1iSOQ O6mQ8ZL/r+VwSxddkhsf2Kd9xRLBl/pm3hzVrsBWlfcEEHvOtT R6RXIxSXMc3VTvDtL63Zm3Zcg5sObS5bvRGRQ4rZbG72fYaGnE 6HvqrtqzQfXbtBSyLnjeEZYTtakH5uHK+/pmGZYmzwlIBKHQ12 86uLFEsMBhtb4u3W8W+wq41FPhbCvdQGYA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.10 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:23:57 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167999 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Daniel! 2 days ago Stefan Merten wrote: > 2 days ago Daniel Colascione wrote: >> On 01/06/2014 12:35 PM, Stefan Merten wrote: >>> Today Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>>> Would anyone mind terribly if I removed rst-mode's support for its >>>>> "deprecated" keybindings? If not, can I do it before the next release? >>>=20 >>> Please keep them once more. But you are right: They should be removed >>> at some point. >>>=20 >>>>> These >>>>> bindings (e.g., C-c 3) have emitted warnings for years, and right now= , they >>>>> show up as ugly "??" entries in describe-mode output. I have a patch = that >>>>> makes the presentation nicer, but it'd be better to just kill these >>>>> bindings entirely. >>>=20 >>> Thanks for the patch. But I think it's better to remove them in the >>> next release. >>>=20 >>> I'll do this. >>=20 >> Wait, I'm confused --- are you removing the deprecated bindings for >> 24.4 or not? >=20 > Sorry for being unclear: I meant in the next release (> 24.4) - not > now. I'm too busy with other things at the moment. At the same time > there are bigger changes in the whole code which are still brewing > though. >=20 >> If we're keeping them for this release, we should at >> least apply my patch so that C-h m is less confusing for users. >=20 > That may be a good move - though I doubt that anyone has a problem > with that. Please do the patch. I'll look at it later. I now checked your patch. In general I like your patch. However, at this time I refuse using `lexical-let' in `rst.el' for backward compatibility. If your patch works without `lexical-let' then go ahead. Otherwise please do not commit the patch to the Emacs main line. PS: The Emacs development seems to be moving to GIT. For me this would be yet another VCS I need to learn (sigh). When this happens I might be unable to use the Emacs VCS for some time. Gr=FC=DFe Stefan --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBUs/i9AnTZgC3zSk5AQJ13gP6A1qmSU0uBRuPep/VX5mOJAJGCrxxnZRz UHNwh8ONAtEJmK3vebBVJy+yelpRyqq59PZobLfm6RofIxfRwfMTrC+u564Yb2Am 9agg9Km01keAmdt7JJxH5BJh0PJTgcL5Ic8j1+CREWgDWPd/Eu2gMSV7gkOBGpDJ FQOx9eYw36w= =26pQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--