From: Jens Schmidt <jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de>
To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Better documentation for non-binding clauses of if-let and friends
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 13:24:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <23d411e4-5bcb-4a24-a0ff-464a7b51b168@vodafonemail.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1tA6Ms-0004zr-Fo@fencepost.gnu.org>
This turned out to be a discussion orthogonal to the one
on while-let, so I think it deserves its own thread ...
On 2024-11-10 12:44, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> If this is useful or not is one thing, but clearly these macros try to
> be too "smart" and don't follow their own description of what they do
> in either docstring or manual.
I rather agree with Joost on that other thread regarding the
usefulness of the FOO-let macros and their condition-only,
non-binding clauses.
> There is no mention of this in the manual, that only says that SPEC is
> like the one in LET*.
But I agree with you that the manual is incomplete or even
wrong here.
How about the following in section "Conditionals" instead
of what there currently is about these:
There's a number of variations on this theme, and they're briefly
described below.
For all of these SPEC is similar to what let* offers, with a few
extensions useful in the context of testing conditions: As with
let*, an element of SPEC which is a list (SYMBOL VALUEFORM) binds
SYMBOL to the value of VALUEFORM. An element can additionally be
of the form (VALUEFORM), which is evaluated and checked for nil;
i.e. SYMBOL can be omitted if only the test result is of
interest. It can also be of the form SYMBOL, then the binding of
SYMBOL is checked for nil.
-- Macro: if-let spec then-form else-forms...
Evaluate each binding in SPEC in turn, stopping if a binding
value or value form is ‘nil’. If all are non-‘nil’, return
the value of THEN-FORM, otherwise the last form in
ELSE-FORMS.
-- ...
If needed, I can provide that or something similar as a patch ...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-10 12:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-08 16:25 Is this a bug in while-let or do I missunderstand it? arthur miller
2024-11-08 19:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-09 3:30 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-09 9:29 ` Yuri Khan
2024-11-09 13:03 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-09 13:15 ` Yuri Khan
2024-11-09 13:38 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-09 13:41 ` Yuri Khan
2024-11-09 13:47 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-09 14:04 ` Yuri Khan
2024-11-09 14:44 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-09 16:33 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-09 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-09 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-09 17:33 ` Andreas Schwab
2024-11-09 18:07 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-11-09 18:18 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-09 20:02 ` Jens Schmidt
2024-11-09 20:38 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-09 21:18 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-10 11:44 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-10 12:24 ` Jens Schmidt [this message]
2024-11-10 14:51 ` Better documentation for non-binding clauses of if-let and friends Sean Whitton
2024-11-10 16:58 ` Jens Schmidt
2024-11-11 10:03 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-11 8:20 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-09 19:32 ` Sv: [External] : Re: Is this a bug in while-let or do I missunderstand it? arthur miller
2024-11-09 22:36 ` Drew Adams
2024-11-09 22:53 ` Drew Adams
2024-11-14 21:50 ` John ff
2024-11-09 20:29 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-10 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-10 10:40 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-10 12:10 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-10 19:49 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-10 18:18 ` arthur miller
2024-11-11 5:13 ` Yuri Khan
2024-11-11 8:49 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-11 12:23 ` tomas
2024-11-11 22:41 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-12 12:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-12 12:45 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-12 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-12 15:32 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-12 23:45 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-13 9:45 ` Sean Whitton
2024-11-13 9:56 ` Sean Whitton
2024-11-13 11:00 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-13 12:17 ` Sean Whitton
2024-11-14 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-14 8:21 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-14 21:51 ` John ff
2024-11-14 21:52 ` John ff
2024-11-09 21:47 ` Sv: " Joost Kremers
2024-11-09 22:07 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-10 6:07 ` Andreas Schwab
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-11-11 9:28 Better documentation for non-binding clauses of if-let and friends arthur miller
2024-11-11 9:58 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-11 10:26 ` Joost Kremers
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